Now you have to worry about bmw's???
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streethorse
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Yeah but the BMW does it whle being able to seat four, have a killer sound system with NAV, leather seats with A/C and heat and power, has warrenty, gets over 20 mpg, stops better, handles better.
I love Stangs but a 335i and a GT are not even remotley competetors for each other. They are each after a different sector of the market.
Fact is though, BMWs always wana outrun the Stang and the Stang owners build up their suspension and compare its handling to a BMW. So yeah, on the street we go head to head, sometimes win, sometimes loose.
Its other cars that I think its funny that the Mustang has to fear them from a street racing standpoint. Who ever thought an Altima would be pushing close to 300 hp or that a Hyundai had 60 more horses then a new GT. There are alot of new high hp cheap toys out there. Wish Ford would hurry up and offer the GTs some serious power, at least as much as a Hyundai has or even a Cherokee with a 5.7
Its other cars that I think its funny that the Mustang has to fear them from a street racing standpoint. Who ever thought an Altima would be pushing close to 300 hp or that a Hyundai had 60 more horses then a new GT. There are alot of new high hp cheap toys out there. Wish Ford would hurry up and offer the GTs some serious power, at least as much as a Hyundai has or even a Cherokee with a 5.7
Guess Ford figures the aftermarket will take are of that, they could at least put better internals in the GTs standard that way we could just put a blower on it and be done with it or at least offer a forged motor from the factory as an option.
Notchbck93
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OK first of all, anyone who spends 40G on lil yuppie hotrod can feel free to walk around my 13G 04 GT. I bought it used with 34K on the clock.
Follow-Up Test: Vishnu Tuning BMW 335i Coupe
For you rag readers: 2008 Infiniti G37 vs 2007 BMW 335 - Specs - Head to Head - Motor Trend
Follow-Up Test: Vishnu Tuning BMW 335i Coupe
For you rag readers: 2008 Infiniti G37 vs 2007 BMW 335 - Specs - Head to Head - Motor Trend
crazystang25
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well im sure i can put in half that amount into a gt such as mine run 12.##'s and still seat 4, im not knockin beamers by any means so dont take it that way i like them too, just 50 g's for a 12.## second car is crazy. but thats also beamers.
But you get so much more than a 12 second timeslip with a 335i. It handles, it stops, a goes fast, and all in quiet and comfort. BMWs are precision engineered and it shows when you ride or drive one. Sure, most of us mustang owners don't care so much about these qualities, but you should understand that some people do.
My 2.3 mustang is faster than that chipped 335i, but it's huge piece of crap with terrible brakes, sloppy steering and a body that flexs so much in hard turns that the hood pops up.
My 2.3 mustang is faster than that chipped 335i, but it's huge piece of crap with terrible brakes, sloppy steering and a body that flexs so much in hard turns that the hood pops up.
georgio440
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People are missing the point of a Bimmer... It's a complete package. We drive pony cars with cheap interior components and very basic parts. A new BMW... well it's a luxury car, and they are generally not characterized by their stock ETs. They are luxury cars, with expensive interior components, wheels, audio components, suspension, brakes, and all sorts of other creature comforts... The fact that this one knocked off a low 12 with just a chip is icing on the cake.
But if I had 50k, it would be going into a used E39 M5 and a C5 Z06. Perfect combination of cars, and they both haul ass.
But if I had 50k, it would be going into a used E39 M5 and a C5 Z06. Perfect combination of cars, and they both haul ass.
In this economy you may find a used C6 Z06 for 50KPeople are missing the point of a Bimmer... It's a complete package. We drive pony cars with cheap interior components and very basic parts. A new BMW... well it's a luxury car, and they are generally not characterized by their stock ETs. They are luxury cars, with expensive interior components, wheels, audio components, suspension, brakes, and all sorts of other creature comforts... The fact that this one knocked off a low 12 with just a chip is icing on the cake.
But if I had 50k, it would be going into a used E39 M5 and a C5 Z06. Perfect combination of cars, and they both haul ass.
And sill have some gas money left 
Under 50K and has only 8k miles on it.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars....c0.m245&_trkparms=72:317|65:12|39:1|240:1308
Under 50K and has only 8k miles on it.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars....c0.m245&_trkparms=72:317|65:12|39:1|240:1308
Let me add my 2 cents:
There are some in this thread who actually "get" it, and there are the typical American car owners who say "I can spend half as much as that and make my car go just as fast." Every once in a while, you have to lift your head out from the mud and muck and take a look around, or the world will pass you by.
Like a couple of people said, yes you are paying 50k for the car, but you're getting the total package. I never realized how much of a pile of crap (build wise) my mustang was until I got the 335. It's literally "night and day." Don't get me wrong, my mustang was more "fun" to drive and it did handle better than the bmw, but there was some serious suspension work done to it so it isn't a fair comparison. It is more comfortable, faster, quiter, built better, stops/brakes better, yadda yadda. You also have to remember that within that 50k purchase price is 4 years of FULL maintenance and warranty work, ALL inclusive, zero out of pocket.
Am I biased? Maybe, but at least I can give everyone a FAIR opinion because I own/owned both, so it isn't an opinion from someone only on one side of the fence.
The link one member posted was an old article about the Vishnu Procede, most likely the first generation of his incarnation. He's on the 3rd right about now, and flashes are on the horizon that will change the playing field. Currently, there are only 2 or 3 flashes available, but those require you to either send the ECU away, or pay Dinan with your first born. The game will change in N54 tuning very soon.
Take a minute to look at dragtimes.com, and look under "search," then "Bmw," then "335i." You will be in for a very unpleasant surprise. The current fastest 335i ran an 11.829 at 117.91 with (I believe) a piggyback tune (550 bux), maybe downpipes, an exhaust, dual cone intake, and DR's. That is fuggin fast people, pay attention. The best part about it is that they can be a total sleeper. You pull up to a stock-looking one, and he/she may just be idling quieter than you can hear. Maybe they even have an exhaust to add a little mystery to the equation. But once the turbos spool up, there's almost full torque at 2k rpms.
I still love mustangs, and I will have one again one day in the future, but don't be naive people in regards to what you don't know about or what you can't honestly comment about. Both are great cars, but they serve TOTALLY different purposes and are meant for two totally different MARKETS.
There are some in this thread who actually "get" it, and there are the typical American car owners who say "I can spend half as much as that and make my car go just as fast." Every once in a while, you have to lift your head out from the mud and muck and take a look around, or the world will pass you by.
Like a couple of people said, yes you are paying 50k for the car, but you're getting the total package. I never realized how much of a pile of crap (build wise) my mustang was until I got the 335. It's literally "night and day." Don't get me wrong, my mustang was more "fun" to drive and it did handle better than the bmw, but there was some serious suspension work done to it so it isn't a fair comparison. It is more comfortable, faster, quiter, built better, stops/brakes better, yadda yadda. You also have to remember that within that 50k purchase price is 4 years of FULL maintenance and warranty work, ALL inclusive, zero out of pocket.
Am I biased? Maybe, but at least I can give everyone a FAIR opinion because I own/owned both, so it isn't an opinion from someone only on one side of the fence.
The link one member posted was an old article about the Vishnu Procede, most likely the first generation of his incarnation. He's on the 3rd right about now, and flashes are on the horizon that will change the playing field. Currently, there are only 2 or 3 flashes available, but those require you to either send the ECU away, or pay Dinan with your first born. The game will change in N54 tuning very soon.
Take a minute to look at dragtimes.com, and look under "search," then "Bmw," then "335i." You will be in for a very unpleasant surprise. The current fastest 335i ran an 11.829 at 117.91 with (I believe) a piggyback tune (550 bux), maybe downpipes, an exhaust, dual cone intake, and DR's. That is fuggin fast people, pay attention. The best part about it is that they can be a total sleeper. You pull up to a stock-looking one, and he/she may just be idling quieter than you can hear. Maybe they even have an exhaust to add a little mystery to the equation. But once the turbos spool up, there's almost full torque at 2k rpms.
I still love mustangs, and I will have one again one day in the future, but don't be naive people in regards to what you don't know about or what you can't honestly comment about. Both are great cars, but they serve TOTALLY different purposes and are meant for two totally different MARKETS.
I used to be one when I was in high school and college that would say, yeah well for $10k I can build a car faster then your $40k car, but since then I have evolved 
Its not about how fast the car is, its about the entire package. I just think it is very respectable that they have quick cars from the factory with no major work. Just a neat factaoid. I actually know someone that has one of these cars, stock, but still, sweet car none the less. I love my mustang to death and woudlnt trade it for a bmw because its just not me, but they are sweet cars none the less......but some have to evolve yet...only took me 5 years
Its not about how fast the car is, its about the entire package. I just think it is very respectable that they have quick cars from the factory with no major work. Just a neat factaoid. I actually know someone that has one of these cars, stock, but still, sweet car none the less. I love my mustang to death and woudlnt trade it for a bmw because its just not me, but they are sweet cars none the less......but some have to evolve yet...only took me 5 years
Ever tell you about the Ferrari I owned? Was an 84 Mondale (sp?) 8 four seater. Second day I had it I broke the $800 radiator hose.I didnt own that car long. Had a 944 Turbo once that lost its $5000 trans the second week I owned it
You better stick to with Tonka trucks from now on
that or power wheels 
streethorse
15 Year Member
We could say the same about Mercedes....Audi...Lexus.... Infinity ...etc.
Sure thier nice cars, you pay 4 X more for a car it better be a total package.
I say @%&* them all.
Sure thier nice cars, you pay 4 X more for a car it better be a total package.
I say @%&* them all.
I put about a 100 miles in one day on a dealer loaner 09 535i so I can give a fair comparison to it and a few other cars. The car is absolutly epic to drive. I was on some back roads that was was very familiar with since I live on them and I was able to put it though its paces.
The car is extreamly balanced. Basically perfect 50/50 front to rear. And is shows when it comes to braking hard into a turn and being able to power out. The car stays composed though to whole turn. I drive my GT on the same road everyday, tons of little steering inputs are reqired and I can't pull though the corners near as hard. And this with over 450whp and 275's all around. Its just one of those cases where I would reel the guy in on the straights then have to slow down too much to keep the car on the road. We he could lay into the power and take that long raising elevation left hander where the car to clamoring for all the grip it can get. The car had the manumatic thing. It would rev match on down shift, shifted pretty quick, proably not suited will for draging, but non the less, a good tranny.
Another Bimmer that I have had to joy to drive extensivly was my father-in-laws 750Li. 4.8L V8 with 360tq and 360hp. Not as quick, think 99 Lightning fast, but seats 4 in more space then a Montana ranch. It will slam you back in the seat and keep you there with its strong torque curve. Truly a blast to drive for such a big car. Its got all kind of cool gadgets on it. Nav routings shows up on the tach face, DVD changer for the rear screen, CD changer upfront, in addiation to the Nav drive in the truck along with the CD player in the dash. Heated and ventalated seats. The brakes will make your eyeballs come out of their sockets. I have never felt brakes that hard before in my life.
I feel I do "get it" when it comes to these cars. So much that I am looking to get in to dealing these sorts of cars. The people who buy these cars arn't so much affected by the current economic climate.
The car is extreamly balanced. Basically perfect 50/50 front to rear. And is shows when it comes to braking hard into a turn and being able to power out. The car stays composed though to whole turn. I drive my GT on the same road everyday, tons of little steering inputs are reqired and I can't pull though the corners near as hard. And this with over 450whp and 275's all around. Its just one of those cases where I would reel the guy in on the straights then have to slow down too much to keep the car on the road. We he could lay into the power and take that long raising elevation left hander where the car to clamoring for all the grip it can get. The car had the manumatic thing. It would rev match on down shift, shifted pretty quick, proably not suited will for draging, but non the less, a good tranny.
Another Bimmer that I have had to joy to drive extensivly was my father-in-laws 750Li. 4.8L V8 with 360tq and 360hp. Not as quick, think 99 Lightning fast, but seats 4 in more space then a Montana ranch. It will slam you back in the seat and keep you there with its strong torque curve. Truly a blast to drive for such a big car. Its got all kind of cool gadgets on it. Nav routings shows up on the tach face, DVD changer for the rear screen, CD changer upfront, in addiation to the Nav drive in the truck along with the CD player in the dash. Heated and ventalated seats. The brakes will make your eyeballs come out of their sockets. I have never felt brakes that hard before in my life.
I feel I do "get it" when it comes to these cars. So much that I am looking to get in to dealing these sorts of cars. The people who buy these cars arn't so much affected by the current economic climate.
crazystang25
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trust me i understand the reason for the price, they got all the comfort and what not with the speed. good stock handling.
crazystang25
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as i said before i love beamers as far a european cars are concerned and would not mind owing one one day when i get the money, its just as far as a strip car is concerned i wouldn't pay that much if ima be takin it down the strip a lot. maybe once or twice to see before mod times and after mod times.
Wolvrin704
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I love both types of cars. I love my Mustang just because its a Mustang. There's just soemthing about having a muscular American sports car that people break their necks gawking at when you pass by. Sure its not all that fast comapred to many new stock cars but its stil a Mustang.
But I also have grown to appreciate and love luxury cars. The driving experience is just second to none in total comfort.
But the fact is that there is much more of a comraderie amongst Stang owners than almost any other vehicle out there. Right now I've got to have a Stang but at another stage of life my needs and desires may change to where a BMW would be more desirable. I do truly apprecaite these type of cars for what they are.
But I also have grown to appreciate and love luxury cars. The driving experience is just second to none in total comfort.
But the fact is that there is much more of a comraderie amongst Stang owners than almost any other vehicle out there. Right now I've got to have a Stang but at another stage of life my needs and desires may change to where a BMW would be more desirable. I do truly apprecaite these type of cars for what they are.
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