The Wrong Way To Make 332 Hp And 334 Lb Tq In A 95 Gt
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One more thing and we can close this out: I hope all of you naysayers enjoy your crow dinner for Xmas. My combo won't work they say. I had an 11.6 a/f ratio and made power to 5,600.
What's the typical a/f ratio for the 165-170cc head topend combo and what's the typical rpm they're maxing out on?
Remember set your TPS to 1.0 volts and never use an fmu, the car can't be tuned and won't run right..... *Newbies if you stumble upon this the TPS thing and fmu comment was just passive aggressive sarcasm. Don't believe everything you read.*
What's the typical a/f ratio for the 165-170cc head topend combo and what's the typical rpm they're maxing out on?
Remember set your TPS to 1.0 volts and never use an fmu, the car can't be tuned and won't run right..... *Newbies if you stumble upon this the TPS thing and fmu comment was just passive aggressive sarcasm. Don't believe everything you read.*
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So, it goes lean at/or above 5600rpm? You obviously have better throttle restraint than I do. I'd kill mine within a couple days if I had to police my foot that close. LOL
One day,,,, and that day will come,,,,, when you accidentally push it to 5700 - redline. When you do and all conditions are just right,,, it'll pop a head gasket. All it takes is once. Lean is mean!
It may be years down the road, or not? But, when that happens, "and it will" you're gonna ask yourself: (Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill) and upgrade my fuel system?
One day,,,, and that day will come,,,,, when you accidentally push it to 5700 - redline. When you do and all conditions are just right,,, it'll pop a head gasket. All it takes is once. Lean is mean!
It may be years down the road, or not? But, when that happens, "and it will" you're gonna ask yourself: (Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill) and upgrade my fuel system?
^^^exactly. And why be limited to 330hp and 5600rpm when with the proper fuel system cures both? If you're happy with basically a h/c/i performance level(with more worry)...? Proper tune/mods and you have 6k rpm capability and about 100hp more power. Each their own I guess.
Not to sound like an ass but i would rather see like 11.2 in full boost .
Thats where i am at anyway. I would still ditch the 19s, fmu , for 42s and a pro m and re tune it and ill bet it makes some more power . as well as gets rid of your wall at 5600.
Again , happy to see its working for you and glad to see you are enjoying the car.
Thats where i am at anyway. I would still ditch the 19s, fmu , for 42s and a pro m and re tune it and ill bet it makes some more power . as well as gets rid of your wall at 5600.
Again , happy to see its working for you and glad to see you are enjoying the car.
I'd like an 800 rwhp daily driver, a 1,500 hp weekend cruiser and a yacht with a big titty woman serving beer but money doesn't permit. The 330 is more of an acceptance thing but I'm not disappointed, I surpassed the popular 300 and really it's plenty. I'm now faster than a Camry and it's running well, and I spent a tad less than the tfs topend I was debating on and I believe I got more power than if I would have gone that route. I had to choose between one or the other, couldn't do both and I had to keep it in that $ ballpark. I guess I could put another couple grand or so in the motor but I'd be one of those fellas w 400 rwhp and duct tape on the headliner. I gotta spread my thin wad around but I'm getting close to having a "finished" product. In the distant funture maybe it'll see a new topend but I don't see it happening too soon. The wife has 2 more yrs of college..
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I asked the tuner about the a/f and fmu/injector deal. He said "I could use 42# and it'd be a flatter line on the graph but it wouldn't make more power."
I don't have the topend to make much if any more power above 5,600 anywaySo, it goes lean at/or above 5600rpm? You obviously have better throttle restraint than I do. I'd kill mine within a couple days if I had to police my foot that close. LOL
One day,,,, and that day will come,,,,, when you accidentally push it to 5700 - redline. When you do and all conditions are just right,,, it'll pop a head gasket. All it takes is once. Lean is mean!
It may be years down the road, or not? But, when that happens, "and it will" you're gonna ask yourself: (Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill) and upgrade my fuel system?
I understand what you're needs are. My point is more along the fmu/19# inj bandaid. I would just spend the extra for the 42's and MAF. That way you won't have to worry about going lean and loosing a head gasket or worse. Would clean up the topend powerband and possibly result in a few more hp. Not an immediate necessity but something I would address. Then you could even add some boost if you wanted to later. This isn't an attack on you. Just my opinion. And having a dd with 330+rwhp is
So not being an expert in this, can Mike add 42's and say a calibrated MAF like Pro -M and just go?
No need for an additional tune, the ecu will just use the new MAF data and larger injectors?
If so are there other Ford stock combos he could get cheaper?
No need for an additional tune, the ecu will just use the new MAF data and larger injectors?
If so are there other Ford stock combos he could get cheaper?
Nah the tuner said I'd need a tune w the 42#'ers but he'd leave the fuel pump n r- rex as is
No, that's not my point. I agree that its making about what it should make for what it is. But it should be bullet proof safe (no matter the power level)where you can't hurt it when enjoying it.
After its tuned, if I can't take my car out and beat the s--t out of it without a care in the world its useless to me.
I like peace of mind knowing my engine is built properly and tuned safe so I can't hurt it.
Its just me
You ALWAYS need to retune after any changes have been made to the fuel system. Air-fuel ratio is critical!
I'm not picking on the OP, Mike is it? I hope all the best for him. Its all about having fun with our cars. He's not the first person to put a bare minimum package together and call it good.
How well it holds up for him is how well disciplined he is.
SORRY for being such a frequent poster. I'm sitting at home, bored out of my skull trying to recover from the Flu.
How well it holds up for him is how well disciplined he is.
SORRY for being such a frequent poster. I'm sitting at home, bored out of my skull trying to recover from the Flu.
I'm not picking on the OP, Mike is it? I hope all the best for him. Its all about having fun with our cars. He's not the first person to put a bare minimum package together and call it good.
How well it holds up for him is how well disciplined he is.
SORRY for being such a frequent poster. I'm sitting at home, bored out of my skull trying to recover from the Flu.
Never you mind about that. There's plenty of room on my soap box.
Here is another way to look at the rpm restrictions that are placed on the current combination: He is getting practice for the rpm limits of the V-10 Viper, as they are all done at about 5,500rpm. 
