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    Leakdown test to confirm compression test...

    You know it leaks on both heads, so you'll have to remove them at some point. I'd just do that next, cheack for other visible damage and get them to a good machine shop. A complete valve job shouldn't be very expensive. If you take the heads to them and there's no cracks or major damage, you'll...
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    13.2 @ 104...

    Uhhh... They're all 5 speeds. :D
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    Car and Driver Review- 05 Stang vs. 05 GTO

    An attorney might now add, "asked and answered!" GM is cutting their own expectations by 1/3rd based on lacklustre sales. There is NO other reason to do it. If they've made over 12K for '04, and cut max production to 12K for '05, it's certainly not because they expect a rise in sales. It's more...
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    Car and Driver Review- 05 Stang vs. 05 GTO

    I don't know or care how many they've got available on the dealers lots, but the sales are sluggish, at best. They never made 18,000 units, but they were hoping to come close, or that wouldn't have been the initial number they set forward as their goal. I don't know if they've even sold 12K...
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    Car and Driver Review- 05 Stang vs. 05 GTO

    What ignorance do you claim? Just because I don't agree with you word for word doesn't mean I'm ignorant, nor that you are not. The '05 GT is a match for the '04 GTO, and then some. It's generally as quick when both are stock, it stops better, it slolams better, it skidpads better. It offers as...
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    Car and Driver Review- 05 Stang vs. 05 GTO

    Again, it doesn't matter that ONE ran 13.18! It's the ONLY one we know of, and it's the only one I've heard of which ran even 13.25 when factory stock. We're not even wasting time to argue whether or not it's really stock... Because we just don't care. C&D said the 2005 GTO performs better in...
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    Car and Driver Review- 05 Stang vs. 05 GTO

    I don't much care whether or not the slip came from a stock GTO. The only thing to keep in mind is that NO others(while 100% stock) have run that quick and the one that ran 13.25 at MIR may well be the very same car. As for the GTO being a sports car in every way, that's a ridiculous...
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    Car and Driver Review- 05 Stang vs. 05 GTO

    So what ammenity/ies does the GTO have that makes it so much better than the MustangGT? It's got more hp/tq, it's bigger inside(moreso in the rear and less in the front), and what else? If the GTO is a "near-luxury" car and the MustangGT is "in no way a NEAR-luxury coupe," then tell us where...
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    Car and Driver Review- 05 Stang vs. 05 GTO

    The GTO is the better consistent performer, IN A STRAIGHT LINE! This used to be the Mustangs biggest drawback, it on;y went straight "well." The GTO handles well, but not AS WELL as the new MustangGT. It doesn't slalom nearly well, nor does it match the skidpad numbers of the GT. Also, the GTO...
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    Car and Driver Review- 05 Stang vs. 05 GTO

    13.2's after mods aren't uncommon. But there's only 1 I've heard of that managed it all stock, even after checking on LS1GTO. There's no '04 GTO that ever ran 12's stock, period. That's why you haven't seen the slip. It didn't happen. The common A4 times are about 14.0, but several have run...
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    Car and Driver Review- 05 Stang vs. 05 GTO

    125 and 139mph with those horrible ETs? YIKES!!! :rlaugh: Well, still no worries. Btw, both are obviously fast. Why the ET for the second car isn't in the 9's, I donno. Maybe the IRS, maybe any number of other factors though, like weight.
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    Car and Driver Review- 05 Stang vs. 05 GTO

    I'll bite, an LS1 in what? Btw, it's not my logic, it's the GTO guys logic. Well boo hoo. It's not even close to the original GTO, or any made through 1974. I doubt you were around to know the difference. Way back when, the GTO was considered a "mid-size" car, and it was an added nameplate to an...
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    Car and Driver Review- 05 Stang vs. 05 GTO

    By that comparison, the 2004 GTO's must suck too, because the LS1 F-body handily outsold it while costing about the same(going by those saying they only paid 25K) and being a minimum of 2 model years older. It's even more obvious when we consider the price drop of up to $8,000. :D
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    Car and Driver Review- 05 Stang vs. 05 GTO

    I donno... But I'm told the 2004 GTO sold about 11,000 units, and I've read over 25,000 Mustangs sold before the car was even at the dealerships... To that end, it would've technically outsold the GTO before day 1. :D
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    Car and Driver Review- 05 Stang vs. 05 GTO

    Hah! Actually, the Mustang oustold the GTO for 2004 models in less than 3 weeks. :rlaugh:
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    Car and Driver Review- 05 Stang vs. 05 GTO

    I'll stick with my 4 Mustangs, thanks. Maybe you should read through my response again though. I'm concinced you didn't understand it the 1st time. :nice: And btw, I'd gladly drag race the quickest GTO on planet earth. I have no concern for "what if's."
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    Car and Driver Review- 05 Stang vs. 05 GTO

    Heh... Prettier is an opinion. It happens to be shared by about 90% ofthe worlds population in this case. If they've seen both cars, that is. Cheaper. Indeed true. Spend 6K and make it as fast... Hardly. For less than 6K it's quite a bit faster. Infact, WAY faster if even the 2V is an...
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    Car and Driver Review- 05 Stang vs. 05 GTO

    Where do you people come up with the "better grade interior" comments? Most of you haven't even glanced at the Mustangs interior, and are merely going by what other GTO owners say. The GTO has a very nice interior, but so does the Mustang. There's little difference in the actual materials used...
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    Car and Driver Review- 05 Stang vs. 05 GTO

    The win came via overall points. Both cars got "gotta have it" points, but the MustangGT got more of them, as it was the more preferred car in their testing. Apparently all the testers agreed on this. That really does make a statement. On the whole, we're not proclaiming the GT as a much...
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    Car and Driver Review- 05 Stang vs. 05 GTO

    You've hit on something here. "Regularly" vs. newly registered and largley posting in one area alone. Thanks for counting though... I didn't know 4 could account for so many negative posts in such a short time! I agree with this and for the most part, don't want anyone to leave, even when I find...
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