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    Why pay the price when the cars are beat up?

    * It has 60 miles on it, and people get all worked-up... * But conversely, if you go to a dealer interested in buying the GT500 they have on the showroom floor, and you ask for a simple test drive before plunking down a substantial amount of money, they say "NO", and.......... you get all...
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    which will be faster 07 shelby GT500, or 06 saleen SC, both stock.

    As with any forced-induction car, it's going to suffer dramatically in the moist hot summer heat. I don't even bother pulling my S351 out during the summer time, it's just frustrating as it runs like a fat pig. Get into fall, and better, winter, and then she runs proper...
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    stripes

    Mine is ordered Lemans-stripe-DELETE... But I left the rocker stripes on it. If I don't like 'em, I'm sure they'll peel off easily enough...
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    Why pay the price when the cars are beat up?

    There are idiots everywhere, and I've steered clear of showroom cars with rubber boogers lingering on top of the inside rear wheel lip (an easy way to check, the dealer detail bozos never think to hose out the wheelhouses thoroughly...). My point, simply stated, was that the picture that...
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    Why pay the price when the cars are beat up?

    Ridiculous thread. One of John Coletti's old torture tests was to run 100 consecutive 1/4 mile runs, hard-core full-flog. There's nothing that's going to happen in 60 hard miles that'll make that car even break a sweat or breath hard, short of driving off a cliff... They're engineered to...
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    Shelby GT500 vs. Saleen S281E

    The irony of it all, is that today's modern Saleen's are FAR MORE ANALOGOUS AND AKIN to the Shelbys of the 60's than today's modern GT500 is. As such, I believe strongly that this fact, combined with far more limited-production rarity, will cause the Saleens to be more Shelby-like in the...
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    Shelby GT500 vs. Saleen S281E

    Beautiful car by the way... The Saleens visually push far more buttons on my excitement-meter than the Shelby does.
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    Shelby GT500 vs. Saleen S281E

    Bear with me, because in no way am I taking aim at your car, I'm just tossing out what I've seen and experienced. Saleen's real-life performance versus advertised horsepower and weight never seem to "jive", i.e. magazines and individuals never seem to be able to achieve times at the track...
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    Went to a Local Car Show and Was Surprised to See 3 GT500s...

    I agree, the Grabber Orange looks great, just like a 1970 GT500, ya just gotta know your old-school colors.. My pet peeve is convertible owners that lower the door windows, but leave the 1/4's up like shark fins... How hard is it to press two buttons?? What is up with that, when people are...
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    Shelby GT500 vs. Saleen S281E

    Congrats!! It's not tough to get a good deal on a Saleen, because there's a limited market demand for them. While everybody is going ape$hit scrambling to be first on the block with a GT500, Saleens have a tough time moving off the showroom floor. It's just supply and demand, across a far...
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    Shelby GT500 vs. Saleen S281E

    The Roush styling additions don't do it for me. They just don't "flow", or look cohesive/integrated. The wing and c-pillar covers scream "J.C. Whitney", and the nose is disproportionately big and bulk and the angles are all awkward and unnatural. If there's one thing I'll tip my hat to Saleen...
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    Shelby GT500 vs. Saleen S281E

    The Saleen S281E is far more than what you're giving it credit for. The entire engine is hand-built (with trick internals), and then the entire chassis and driveline is modified. If you really sat down with a pen and paper and calculator, and added up what it would COST you to build a S281E in...
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    Shelby GT

    It illustrates the lunacy of paying huge premiums early in the game... But LONG TERM, I don't think there's going to be "too many" special models built on this platform. Just look at how many different things Ford and Shelby punted to the public in the late 60's.. Shelby GT350, then GT500...
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    Shelby GT500 vs. Saleen S281E

    When you compare the two at similar money, the S281E certainly looks like the far smarter buy, short-term and long-term. But the fact is that the current mark-up-fest on Shelbys is TEMPORARY, so it's only fair to compare MSRP vs. MSRP, at which point the Shelby becomes the more logical...
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    Shelby GT

    I'll 2nd that... It's a neat little package, and very reminiscent of the process and modifications that brought the 65-66 Shelbys to market. I was already noodling on how I could wrangle one of the Hertz cars once they finally retired to dealer lots, without getting bent over and...
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    Shelby "Material" delays...

    I've got the same ongoing status with my GT500, and I also ordered the Shaker 1,000. My dealer's owner is a friend in the hobby, and a straight shooter. He has no reason or inclination to B.S. me. I'm not worried at this point. Heck, I placed my order for my '93 Cobra in September '02, and...
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    Got my Shelby yesterday...loved everything except..

    When it comes to acceleration, weight is weight, it wouldn't matter if your were dangling the fuel tank out the side window like a brief case. It's more evident in your 6-cyl, because the lower power means that extra weight changes the power/weight ratio more easily. Simple math. The less...
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    GT-500 = Boat

    3,500 pound Challenger?? And who'll be driving it down the dragstrip, the tooth fairy or Santa Claus?? ;) :D And the Camaro is scheduled for early 2009. Ford's got plenty of time and product to roll out to stay ahead of that game. I guarantee that Ford won't still be schlocking the same GT500...
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    GT-500 = Boat

    It's all relative... Somewhere along the way, over the past 10 years, as performance has entered another "golden era", people have forgotten that these "overweight, overcontented, plush, cushy pigs" make a 1970 Hemi Cuda look like a VW Rabbit with bad brakes. We're having our cake, and...
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    What are you paying for a new GT500?

    It's a quotient of patience and money. The older I get, the more patient I become... I Don't feel the need to be the first guy on the block anymore, but conversely I'll try to get in the seat as soon as I can without pooping on my principles. I would figure that anybody with enough mad-money to...
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