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  1. J

    Car and Driver Review- 05 Stang vs. 05 GTO

    I think the whole point is that a rating system doesn't tell you which car they like better. That is why they shouldn't use the rating system to rank cars. I can perfectly understand why the chose the Mustang over the GTO... I just don't think they should add a huge "gotta have it" factor that...
  2. J

    Car and Driver Review- 05 Stang vs. 05 GTO

    "What does that have to do lackluster sales of the GTO?" Why would I, as a consumer, care about the lack-luster sales of the GTO? That means that it gets offered with discounts, so from my perspective it becomes a better value... Now to be fair, the HUGE sales goal of the 2005 Mustang can...
  3. J

    Car and Driver Review- 05 Stang vs. 05 GTO

    Here is another point about the GTO... The way it is selling is a good thing. Well, at least for me as a person who is interested in buying the GTO... Because that means it will have huge depreciation... In 2-3 years, the 2005s might be $18K used...
  4. J

    Car and Driver Review- 05 Stang vs. 05 GTO

    "Talk about putting a spin on things. So now we call lack of sales "exclusivity" and mundane styling "stealth"?" Do you think everyone wants to drive a car that sells 150K a year? In 5 years, everyone on the block will have the new Mustang. Some people want to be seen as individuals and...
  5. J

    Car and Driver Review- 05 Stang vs. 05 GTO

    "Change those numbers and erase the "gotta- have - it - factor"(25 to 18) which is more like "How i think it looks factor,"" Actually, there is a styling section, so who knows what "gotta have it" actually measures? It doesn't mean fun to drive either because the GTO won on that one too...
  6. J

    Car and Driver Review- 05 Stang vs. 05 GTO

    Well, I think I've convinced anybody that can be convinced that the Mustang GT and the Pontiac GTO aren't designed for the exact same type of consumer so I will shut up now...
  7. J

    Car and Driver Review- 05 Stang vs. 05 GTO

    Sorry iviustang, I thought you were referring to me... I have a problem where I tend to get too defensive.
  8. J

    Car and Driver Review- 05 Stang vs. 05 GTO

    "The E39 M5 is faster than the E46 M3 in terms of acceleration. Go sit in an E46 M3, it is quite luxurious. Bimmer guys would have a field day with you on that aspect." Look man, do you have a little problem with something called relativity? I know that the M3 is luxurius. It is a BMW after...
  9. J

    Car and Driver Review- 05 Stang vs. 05 GTO

    "2.) Are all GTO ownsers a-holes? Why do they come into a mustang forum and bash the 05 mustang?" Again, I do not own the GTO. I am a guy that is thinking of buying either car (or the RX-8) in a couple years... The GTO appeals to me because of the grand touring aspect... The Mustang GT...
  10. J

    Car and Driver Review- 05 Stang vs. 05 GTO

    "The GTO is no where near being classified as a luxury car, even John Do agrees with that." Even though I agree with that, I still feel it can be classified as a near-luxury product. I know the brand name isn't exactly luxurius but isn't the Chrysler 300C a near luxury car even though it says...
  11. J

    Car and Driver Review- 05 Stang vs. 05 GTO

    "Jeez do some research, you are killing yourself. The E65 M5 is a BRAND NEW vehicle, which sas never been comparison tested." Look man, we are talking about M5s and I mentioned an M5. Maybe a newer, higher horsepower M5 just came out but even if that's the case a newer, even more high...
  12. J

    Car and Driver Review- 05 Stang vs. 05 GTO

    If you want a possible, 1 to 1, direct competitor to the GTO, none exists... But hypothetically, if Ford decided to bring back the Mercury Cougar based on a stretched out version of the Mustang GT platform and with that 375HP 5.4L engine they are developing, now that would be a direct competitor...
  13. J

    Car and Driver Review- 05 Stang vs. 05 GTO

    "First, the E65 M5 is currently BMW's ultimate performance car." No, it's not. You can read an article on the holy grail AKA Car and Driver, comparing the performance of an M3 to an M5 and a CTS-V to find out that the M3 does, in fact, perform better than the M5. I think it's available on...
  14. J

    Car and Driver Review- 05 Stang vs. 05 GTO

    Hey, I only quote like one or two things... There are A LOT of people that consider the GTO as more than just a performance car... Just because luxury companies offer luxury sports cars doesn't mean they aren't sports car. The M3 is a sports car. (Or at least the closest that BMW offers to one...
  15. J

    Car and Driver Review- 05 Stang vs. 05 GTO

    The GTO is more luxurius given the fact taht you can carry four people more comfortably in it with a smooth ride that isn't totally tuned for absolute performance. "The same concept applies to BMW's M division. The M3 has a very luxurious interior, with a ton of available high end features...
  16. J

    Car and Driver Review- 05 Stang vs. 05 GTO

    "Magazines compare the Z06 to 996 Turbo, not because of the luxury content, rather performance." But that is because they are strict performance vehicles!! The GTO is not a strict performance vehicle. If the Mustang was to be compared to a BMW, it would be compared to the BMW M3 because both...
  17. J

    Car and Driver Review- 05 Stang vs. 05 GTO

    I agree with you on that but they are OUT AND OUT luxury cars. I never said the GTO was a luxury car. I said it was a NEAR-luxury car. Compare its interior to a G35 or Cadillac CTS instead of an $80K BMWs and lexuses and you will see that it stacks up. I would argue that the GTO could...
  18. J

    Car and Driver Review- 05 Stang vs. 05 GTO

    And some sources for the record claim that the GTO has a better quality interior than the CTS-V. Of course that is just their personal opinion... I am not trying to argue that the GTO is the super-luxury vehicle that Topgear, Edmunds, Motor trend an other sources think it is... They probably...
  19. J

    Car and Driver Review- 05 Stang vs. 05 GTO

    "I am not going to argue with you because you don't know what a luxury car is. Your earlier comparison of the GTO vs CTS-V is like saying F-bodies are 90-95% of a GTO." Don't argue with me. Argue with the source--Emunds--that you brought up. Again, here is the quote again from Edmunds, in...
  20. J

    Car and Driver Review- 05 Stang vs. 05 GTO

    So you're telling me that the GTO isn't a NEAR-luxury performance coupe according to Edmunds but the $22K Acura RSX is according to that list? Keep in mind that Edmunds is the same source that when reviewing the GTO, compared it to $50K+ German luxury cars... (Not that Edmunds is the only source...
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