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    Diablo uses my 05 for a test car for the PREDATOR

    Ford cannot void your warranty persay, just for the flash. Read the Magnusson Act on Sema's webite. Ford has to prove that it was the programming that caused the malfunction.
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    Car and Driver Review- 05 Stang vs. 05 GTO

    Is that right? I used to own a 2001 330i. My brother has an M3. My mom had an E320 and my dad currently has a A8. You GTO guys are delusional to compare your car to any of the ones listed.
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    Diablo uses my 05 for a test car for the PREDATOR

    I will wait till an independent dyno verifies this. I know that the SCT tuner is good for roughly 25 rwhp, so this seems bogus. If this can be proved, I am sold.
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    Car and Driver Review- 05 Stang vs. 05 GTO

    Your lack of basic automotive knowledge amazes me, but you keep going. The E46 M3 has the same basic architecture as a 330Ci interior wise. You get more feature in the M3 and available 2 tone leather, among other things. My 330i Sport rode fairly firm, almost as harsh as an M3. Again, any...
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    Car and Driver Review- 05 Stang vs. 05 GTO

    The E39 M5 is faster than the E46 M3 in terms of acceleration. Go sit in an E46 M3, it is quite luxurious. Bimmer guys would have a field day with you on that aspect. The new E65 M5(NEW) is faster than both cars by a large margin. Again, any ///M vehicle is about performance FIRST. This has...
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    Car and Driver Review- 05 Stang vs. 05 GTO

    GM's luxury coupe for example was the Eldorado. Again, the GTO is no where near being classified as a luxury car, even John Do agrees with that. Using that logic, if I put an aftermarket Alpine GPS system in my 05 GT I guess I have a luxury coupe. Arguing with GTO owners, is like winning...
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    Car and Driver Review- 05 Stang vs. 05 GTO

    Jeez do some research, you are killing yourself. The E65 M5 is a BRAND NEW vehicle, which sas never been comparison tested. The E39 M5 with 400hp was the last generation vehicle, which was the vehicle tested. The new M5 has 500hp and a 7 speed SMG transmission. I have a hard time taking your...
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    Car and Driver Review- 05 Stang vs. 05 GTO

    You just don't get it...I am done with this subject, but will correct a few of your errors. First, the E65 M5 is currently BMW's ultimate performance car. Second, the Mark VIII is a luxury coupe. Lincoln is Ford's luxury division, which competes with Cadillac. Pontiac is no where near GM's...
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    Car and Driver Review- 05 Stang vs. 05 GTO

    Urgh...I really think you need to take a trip to a couple of local dealers. A 996 TT isn't about strictly performance; ever sit in this car's interior? It is made as a all out performance car for a discriminating buyer. Check out Porsches US website and build one, you will see what I mean...
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    Car and Driver Review- 05 Stang vs. 05 GTO

    I will argue that the new GT is more than a cheap performance car. The interior of the new vehicle is great, but no where near a luxury car. The GTO is the same way. Pontiac isn't GM's luxury car division, Cadillac is. If you cleaned up a Hyundai Elantra's interior and put great materials...
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    Car and Driver Review- 05 Stang vs. 05 GTO

    I get it, you don't......Key words are "RUN WITH THIS PONTIAC". The comparison is about performance not luxury. Hopefully, both of us would agree that the GTO comes no where near the CLK or 6 series, which Edmunds was refering to.
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    Car and Driver Review- 05 Stang vs. 05 GTO

    I am not going to argue with you because you don't know what a luxury car is. Your earlier comparison of the GTO vs CTS-V is like saying F-bodies are 90-95% of a GTO. We all know this to be false. The GTO is a performance coupe, same as the Mustang. You don't get nearly all the comforts of a...
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    Car and Driver Review- 05 Stang vs. 05 GTO

    Double post
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    Car and Driver Review- 05 Stang vs. 05 GTO

    The GTO is not a luxury car...Do a little research. Below is a list of Luxury coupes, which the GTO doesn't fit into. http://www.edmunds.com/new/market/luxury/coupehatchback/index.html?tid=edmunds.n.marketindex.content.num2.0.*
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    Car and Driver Review- 05 Stang vs. 05 GTO

    Since many owners don't have their cars yet, mag racing is the best we can do. You would be a fool to think that the 04 GTO vs 05 GT isn't a drivers race; it is going to be that close.
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    Car and Driver Review- 05 Stang vs. 05 GTO

    I am going by Slalom numbers; the best indicator IMO of comparing 2 vehicles handling dynamics. I don't have the article in front of me, so I cannot comment further. The cars were compares under the same conditions, temp, etc. This makes the comparison very valid. Comparing a 330i tested on...
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    Olive Branch due to previous Cobra thread...

    No hard feelings here. It was just a discussion nothing more. The Cobra is a great car, just not my cup of tea though. Same probably holds true to Cobra owners and the 05 GT. I look forward to seeing some 03/04 Cobra's at the track to see how they compare in the corners.
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    Car and Driver Review- 05 Stang vs. 05 GTO

    I have road raced BMW's and can attest that they have better than average handling charachteristics. Again, this can be attributed to you lack of understanding of how cars are pitted against one another. Compare BMW's M3 to the GTO and GT; it is CLEARLY a better handling car. The M3 is BMW's...
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    Car and Driver Review- 05 Stang vs. 05 GTO

    I really don't think you have a firm grasp of how to compare automobiles. The Marauder and 300C are sedans. The GTO a coupe. The GTO and GT are both coupes; they have similar performance characteristics and dimensions. They both are in the lower rung of sports coupes, thus the comparison...
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    Car and Driver Review- 05 Stang vs. 05 GTO

    Where do you come up with this stuff? BMW's have terrible handling limits, PLEASE. Some of you guys really need to do some research on other makes and models. The 05 GT beats the GTO in every valid performance catagory, except acceleration.
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