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    New Stang vs top Ricer Cars

    Stock for Stock the Evo and the '05 GT should be about the same. 271hp/3200lbs. vs. 300hp/3425lbs. The Evo is a high 13 sec. car at best. Most magazines tested them at 13.6-14.1. I think the '05 would probably beat the Evo all day from a roll and cost $5K less.
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    New Stang vs top Ricer Cars

    At the drag strip near me all the STOCK '03-04 Cobra are hitting 12's or at least 13.0, pully swap and K&N and they are doing 12.5. Most STOCK STIs had a hard time getting out of the 14's. THe fastest STOCK STI at the track has done a 13.8. Maybe the STI drivers just suck at life :shrug:
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    New Stang vs top Ricer Cars

    THe '04 GT is slower but can also be had for $10,000 less than a STI. Mach 1 will beat an Evo and go neck and neck with the STI for $5K-7K less after rebate and the superchraged Cobra will smoke all those cars. Like Omegalock said, if you want to impress girls, get a used Escalade, CTS or...
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    New Stang vs top Ricer Cars

    More displacement = more torque. The V8 will have more neck snapping power in the lower RPM range. Most low displacement turbo are weak below 4000rpm and don't start making power until after that. I think the Mustang is a better bang for your buck, but in the end you should test drive...
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    Ford says they will have incentives on the 2005's...

    Consumers have come to expect rebates so much now that they won't buy a car with out them.
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    loaded 05 GT to sell for more than $30,000?

    Loaded means with all the options the options avalible.
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    loaded 05 GT to sell for more than $30,000?

    Yes the old Mustang GT topped out at $29K MSRP. I'm saying the new 2005 Mustang will have options like XM, side airbags, and 18" rims as options that will push the fully loaded price up a little. No one is saying the base price will jump $5,000. We are talking about the fully loaded price...
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    loaded 05 GT to sell for more than $30,000?

    A loaded GT coupe now cost $29K MSRP, so if they add XM/Sirrus($300), side airbags($350), 18" chrome rim upgrade ($500-$1000) . That right there will push the loaded '05 MSRP over $30,000.
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    loaded 05 GT to sell for more than $30,000?

    $30K for a loaded GT seems right. If the base is $26K, once you start adding options it will climb fast. Heated leather, Mach 1000, chrome 18" rims, XM/Sirrus, spoiler, automatic tranny, side airbags, floor mats :D, DVD?.
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    05 Stang vs new GTO?

    Winning by performance. 1/4mi. and HP 93-02 = GM 2003 = Ford 2004 = Ford 2005 = GM 2006 will be close. Dodge will have a 6.1L Charger, LS2 GTO, and the return of a SVT Mustang that will be at least 410HP
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    05 Stang vs new GTO?

    I don't know but they are. The GTO needs 400HP to better compete with the S/C Cobra and beat the Mach 1 and since the Gen III V8s (LS1/LS6) are going out of production the LS2 is the only choice. Looks like GM will win the '05 muscle car wars. My guess is it will be underrated even more to...
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    05 Stang vs new GTO?

    I don't think the Mustang looks anything like a Cavi, neither does the GTO, that is why I said it, to show how dumb of a comparison it is. If the GTO looks like any car it is the 3 Series or 6 seires BMW
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    05 Stang vs new GTO?

    Yes, it is easy to tell the difference. They look nothing alike other than the fact that they have 2 door and 4 wheels. THe Mustang looks just as much like a cavalier as the GTO. I guess every european and Japanese coupe looks like the cavalier too because they all share that "2-door...
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    I don't like the V6 Mustang

    Most the people I have show it to say it is ugly. (unlike the silver GT) The more I look are it I think it is just the rims that turn me off. They are one of the worst designs I have ever seen, the only way they could be worse is if they were 3 spoke. 65-series tires do not belong on a...
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    Tell Me Your Honest Opinion!

    Right now we have no idea if there will be a new Cobra Vert. It could be coupe only like the Mach 1
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    I don't like the V6 Mustang

    I'm all for making the V6 and GT look different, but the V6 needs to look a lot sportier/agressive. It is going to be competing with the SRT-4, Eclipes, Cobalt SS, and RSX for the sporty $20K sales. Maybe it is just the rims and paint combo. I hate that nasty baby sh|t green color (but not...
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    I don't like the V6 Mustang

    Does anyone else think the V6 Stang is kind of boring and ugly? I think it is a big step backwards from the last gen V6, it doesn't even look sporty. I hate those rims, whats with the spinner? more pics : http://www.darksummer.com/40th.htm I don't know how they pull off making it look so...
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    05 Stang vs new GTO?

    GTO success will be good for all RWD V8 fans. Same goes for '05+ Mustang. The better they sell, the more special models we will get. If it wasn't for the LS1 Camaro SS and WS6 beating the Cobra year after year, I don't think we would have ever got the supercharged Cobra in '03
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    05 Stang vs new GTO?

    THe biggest dealer near me has more Bonnie GXPs than GTOs (3 vs.1 :D)
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    05 Stang vs new GTO?

    The current GTO is just a stop gap car. GM NA has a 3 year deal with Holden to import 18,000 Monaros a year as GTOs. The current body style GTO will only be built for 3 years. The next GTO is being designed as we speak. Even if for some odd reason the GTO doesn't sell like they thought it...
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