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  1. MyBlueOval

    the real deal with recent GT orders

    Who said anything about blaming the dealer? My rep at the DEALERSHIP told me 10-12 weeks to delivery after order. If I don't have a build date after 9 weeks how could that be possible? You're right that production is out of the hands of the dealer but they can certainly control what comes out...
  2. MyBlueOval

    cancel or not

    Yellow, in all honesty I have given up incentives so that others could be rewarded and recognized for their effort. Some would call that naive or stupid, others would call it leadership. I make a good living and there isn't really anything that I want that I can't buy. It seems my wants...
  3. MyBlueOval

    Dealer Update #2--I Have A Build Date!

    I wouldn't do any of the three. Scotchguarding, rustproofing and "paint protection" are notorious dealer addons that have fat margin for the dealer but little or no value for you. Your STANDARD WARRANTY includes 5 yr. / unlimited mileage for rust. If you want to "Scotchguard" your car, buy a...
  4. MyBlueOval

    the real deal with recent GT orders

    I ordered a GT vert on 3/18 (X-plan $500 deposit) and I have DORA. As of 4/20 my order is C/U accoridng to the IVRU. I gave my dealer an ultimatium. If my car doesn't have a build date by 5/20, I'm going to cancel my order and buy a BMW 330ci. This late in the 2005 build cycle, if I don't...
  5. MyBlueOval

    cancel or not

    Did I say stop production...NO I did not. I was counteracting your claim that the plant is running at capacity. What I was trying to get at is that Ford could shift capacity if they'd planned better. They didn't so I guess 192k units is the max they can produce for Mustangs. Should they...
  6. MyBlueOval

    cancel or not

    I lodged a formal complaint with Ford customer care and communicated the exact sentiments I'm communicating here. I would like Ford to actually police their distribution network and make sure its customers are being treated properly. Independent or otherwise...do you think Walmart would keep...
  7. MyBlueOval

    cancel or not

    You're right, Ford doesn't own the dealers but they do CHOOSE to allow them to sell their cars and their standards for the relationship and dealer behavior obviously aren't that high. If they don't have enough parts to build cars, they didn't do a good job of planning and managing inventory...
  8. MyBlueOval

    X-Plan for 2006 GT

    Thanks for reminding me! I did talk to the internet guy at Santa Margarita Ford about a Saleen and he seemed honest and helpful. I didn't have extensive contact with him but I can get a feel for the "slime factor" fairly quick. That dealership is a little too far from mi casa. I did consider...
  9. MyBlueOval

    cancel or not

    It is about credibility. One aspect of credibility is estimating demand and setting realistic production goals. If Ford had spent as many $ on predicting demand as it spent advertising the '05 Mustang then they'd have more GTs in the pipeline right now. They also should have had the issues...
  10. MyBlueOval

    No more 05's to be scheduled

    My sentiments exactly. Bottom line, the 3-series is one of the best selling cars in the USA because it has high build quality and low total cost of ownership. Ford cars don't hold their resale value. I won't pay more when I have an option to pay less for the same car. Will I pay more for a...
  11. MyBlueOval

    No more 05's to be scheduled

    No, I can't get plan pricing on the BMW. And yes, Mustang GT Vert MSRP < BMW 330ci Vert negotiated. You're right...it will feel good for awhile. Then, 3 years from now when I go to get the next "new new thing" that my heart desires, the reality will hit in the resale value. Tell you what...
  12. MyBlueOval

    No more 05's to be scheduled

    Yes, the BMW will cost more and yes, I can afford it...that's why I have choices. I think that some people are missing the essence of my frustration. I am ANGRY with Ford and their dealerships because frankly, most just DO NOT CARE if you've bought other vehicles from them. They're just out...
  13. MyBlueOval

    No more 05's to be scheduled

    Mark, like I said in my post, if I don't get my GT vert order in a reasonable period of time I will be purchasing the "Ultimate Driving Machine". Maybe in a few years I might give the Mustang GT a chance when Ford and it's dealers have taken their heads out of their backsides. I'm interested...
  14. MyBlueOval

    From ExCon: Please Ignore Me!

    Think of it as a blessing in disguise. Now you'll have more time to upgrade the meth lab. Ignore the squealers ExCon. They're the same people that can't appreciate British humor.
  15. MyBlueOval

    cancel or not

    Yes, that's right. I'm "without an 05" and amazingly, I still lead a productive and satisfying life. :rolleyes: A career is what you do. A car is what you drive. Neither is who you are. I'm more than happy to let the 05 inventory go to those who feel good about paying MSRP or MSRP+ for...
  16. MyBlueOval

    cancel or not

    I would prefer to get a better deal. I've got a '05 GT vert order in the system at X-plan and if Ford can't deliver like a reputable and credible company should, then I'll be happy to purchase a competitor's product (330ci vert). I can drive it for a few years and switch back to a Mustang GT...
  17. MyBlueOval

    cancel or not

    Concur mtbdoc. I told my rep at the dealership where I placed my GT vert order (3/18) that if I don't have a build date by 5/18 that I'm canceling :notnice: to buy a BMW 330ci convertible with performance pkg. I don't like the looks of the GTO so I won't be going down that route. The other...
  18. MyBlueOval

    No more 05's to be scheduled

    Yellow, if it gets any worse than Ford is losing a customer...ME. I have an order in for a GT vert here at a SoCal dealership (placed 3/18). It's still C/U. I spoke with my rep last week and told him that if I don't have a build date by 5/18 that I'll be canceling my order to buy a '05 BMW...
  19. MyBlueOval

    X-Plan for 2006 GT

    If that's true, I'd be sending my car in regularly so that I could get a nice Ford GT (demo of my choice) to tool around town in. :D Why don't you try asking them for a GT instead of a Taurus, Focus or T-bird and see how accomodating they really are? :rolleyes:
  20. MyBlueOval

    X-Plan for 2006 GT

    :bs: NO dealership in SoCal has 26 GTs on the lot! Even though Galpin is the largest they're blowing smoke up a very dark hole. :rlaugh: If other dealers here are telling you "no 2006 orders on plan" they're full of it too. They might not take an order now but wait until the end of the...