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Any benefit to a K&N FIPK intake?

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drivesideways46

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Well, the local Autozone has K&N FIPK intakes for sale at $160. So, I've been considering picking one up but I wanted to hear from other people on this board. Is this a pretty good intake? Keep in mind, this is for a 2000 GT and the owner is 19 years old and not extremely adept at vehicle maintenance.

I was also looking at a Densecharger intake system, but it looks a little high-maintenance and sort of low in quality. (I saw several comments about how you can make your own using supplies from Home Depot?) Anyway, if anyone has experience with the power gains of any of these systems or any other systems that they'd recommend I'd appreciate it.
 

DoubleONegative

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Take a look at JLT CAI and RAIs before you decide on one
 

propellerhead

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Engine bay mounted filter vs Fender mounted filter

I posted this on another forum, but I'll post it here too.

What’s the best cold air intake (CAI) kit for my Mustang? How many times have I seen a thread with that question? The CAI has to be in the top 10 most debated topics in the Mustang world. Some argue that these CAI kits aren’t worth the money. Some argue that it’s one of the first mods a Mustang should get. Personally, I didn’t care if it was worth the money when I decided to get one. I wasn’t really concerned at the horsepower per dollar ratio of the CAI. I like how the CAI looks and it was within my budget and it was a really easy mod to do. That meant a lot for a desk jock like me.

When I decided to get a CAI, naturally the next question was which CAI to get. I read thread after thread on different message boards comparing the different cold air intake (CAI) kits available for the Mustang. I realized there were so many choices but I narrowed it down to two general types. There are ones with the filter in the engine bay protected by a heat shield, and ones with the filter in the fender. The arguments around the filter location are all about the air temperature. The engine bay mounted filters are said to suck hot air, while the fender mounted filters suck cooler air. The popular engine bay mounted kits are the Steeda and K&N kits. MAC and Densecharger are popular fender mounted kits.

I’ve seen this air temperature argument so many times and thought to myself, this was something I could easily validate. I went to the hardware store and looked for indoor/outdoor thermometers. I found this digital thermometer with an outdoor sensor on a 10’ wire for $10. Perfect! I bought two so I could take temperature readings in the engine bay and in the fender at the same time. I hurried home and opened up the hood. I attached one sensor along the front brace, just behind the passenger side headlight. The sensor was about two inches in front of the K&N filter in the engine bay. I attached the second sensor to some cable inside the fender. It was about 4 inches into the cavity for the air silencer. I ran both wires into the car and attached the two thermometers to an old CD. I rechecked all my connections and I was ready to start my data collection. The geek inside me was happy and I’m sure I got a few weird looks from the neighbors. Time to drive around.

[These message forums don't make it easy to post data in a tabular format so I'll just summarize the data.]

The data tells me that once I am moving above 15 mph, the temperature difference averages around 3.5 degrees. With the a/c running, the engine bay was around 4-5 degrees warmer than the fender area. At speeds less than 15 mph, the difference goes above 10 degrees. The engine bay is definitely hotter but only by a few degrees when the car is moving.

Does the air temperature matter? I can’t answer that. I’ve seen some claims on the Internet about losing 1 hp per 10 degrees increase in air temperature. If we assume that is true, then having the filter in the fender gives you ¼ to ½ hp over the guy with the filter in the engine bay.

Do I miss that fraction of a horse because I got the K&N FIPK? No. If we assume the 1 hp per 10 degrees is accurate, then my car will produce 2-3 hp more in the early morning than my drive home at 5:30 pm only because of the weather. The ¼ to ½ hp is negligible.

Does the extra half hp result in better mileage or performance? In a laboratory or on paper, Yes. But in the real world, a slight incline in the road, or a light wind, or having a passenger, or a little traffic will have so much more impact on mileage and performance that the ¼ to ½ hp is again neglible.

My recommendation is to choose a CAI that has the larger filter for more surface area, and one that has the shortest path to the throttle body.
 

twogts4us

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The K&N FIPK GEN 2 works. Make sure you get the GEN 2. Someone had posted a dyno gain of about 8 HP with the Gen 2 a month or so ago.
 

Tylerb59

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I made some pretty good gains with mine.
 
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rllndg17

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I've got the K&N FIPK Gen II, can't go wrong w/ it, easy to bolt on, noticed a minor gain, sounds cool when the air gets sucked into it
 

Dark Knight GT

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I'm not gonna bother getting technical in here, at least not right now. The K&N FIPK is the best I've used on my car, I still have it, and I love it. It's about the best out right now IMHO. Trinity_GT gained 9.3rwhp with his so you can email and/or PM him for pics of the dyno graph.
 
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stangmeister

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Just incase you needed another Gen 2 affirmation you have my vote.
 

SonicBlue2v03GT

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stangmeister said:
Just incase you needed another Gen 2 affirmation you have my vote.
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mcmmotorsports

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There is one in my future too
 

ScottyG00GT

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I like mine on my '00 GT. My dad got one for his '01, as well, and he saw a gain, even though he already had a drop-in K&N filter. Definitely a gain; don't expect huge numbers, but it's still nice. I have run mine now for 15k - 20k miles and it has been flawless.
 

StngStr

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I think I'm going to go with the FIPK II.
 

speed545

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propellerhead said:
I posted this on another forum, but I'll post it here too.

What’s the best cold air intake (CAI) kit for my Mustang? How many times have I seen a thread with that question? The CAI has to be in the top 10 most debated topics in the Mustang world. Some argue that these CAI kits aren’t worth the money. Some argue that it’s one of the first mods a Mustang should get. Personally, I didn’t care if it was worth the money when I decided to get one. I wasn’t really concerned at the horsepower per dollar ratio of the CAI. I like how the CAI looks and it was within my budget and it was a really easy mod to do. That meant a lot for a desk jock like me.

When I decided to get a CAI, naturally the next question was which CAI to get. I read thread after thread on different message boards comparing the different cold air intake (CAI) kits available for the Mustang. I realized there were so many choices but I narrowed it down to two general types. There are ones with the filter in the engine bay protected by a heat shield, and ones with the filter in the fender. The arguments around the filter location are all about the air temperature. The engine bay mounted filters are said to suck hot air, while the fender mounted filters suck cooler air. The popular engine bay mounted kits are the Steeda and K&N kits. MAC and Densecharger are popular fender mounted kits.

I’ve seen this air temperature argument so many times and thought to myself, this was something I could easily validate. I went to the hardware store and looked for indoor/outdoor thermometers. I found this digital thermometer with an outdoor sensor on a 10’ wire for $10. Perfect! I bought two so I could take temperature readings in the engine bay and in the fender at the same time. I hurried home and opened up the hood. I attached one sensor along the front brace, just behind the passenger side headlight. The sensor was about two inches in front of the K&N filter in the engine bay. I attached the second sensor to some cable inside the fender. It was about 4 inches into the cavity for the air silencer. I ran both wires into the car and attached the two thermometers to an old CD. I rechecked all my connections and I was ready to start my data collection. The geek inside me was happy and I’m sure I got a few weird looks from the neighbors. Time to drive around.

[These message forums don't make it easy to post data in a tabular format so I'll just summarize the data.]

The data tells me that once I am moving above 15 mph, the temperature difference averages around 3.5 degrees. With the a/c running, the engine bay was around 4-5 degrees warmer than the fender area. At speeds less than 15 mph, the difference goes above 10 degrees. The engine bay is definitely hotter but only by a few degrees when the car is moving.

Does the air temperature matter? I can’t answer that. I’ve seen some claims on the Internet about losing 1 hp per 10 degrees increase in air temperature. If we assume that is true, then having the filter in the fender gives you ¼ to ½ hp over the guy with the filter in the engine bay.

Do I miss that fraction of a horse because I got the K&N FIPK? No. If we assume the 1 hp per 10 degrees is accurate, then my car will produce 2-3 hp more in the early morning than my drive home at 5:30 pm only because of the weather. The ¼ to ½ hp is negligible.

Does the extra half hp result in better mileage or performance? In a laboratory or on paper, Yes. But in the real world, a slight incline in the road, or a light wind, or having a passenger, or a little traffic will have so much more impact on mileage and performance that the ¼ to ½ hp is again neglible.

My recommendation is to choose a CAI that has the larger filter for more surface area, and one that has the shortest path to the throttle body.
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Well this is one of the most intelligent post i ve read on this never ending debate on CAI. Thx Propellerhead for taking the time to perform that test.
 

StngStr

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Yes...very nice.

I'm going to run my A/C vents into the intake.













j/k
 
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I used tio have the FIPK II it was a good unit. I however didn't like the orange look and I wanted the aluminum so I went with the C&L kit and sol the FIPK to a buddy
 
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