anyone heard of these cams?

98COBRA281 · Jul 2, 2008

i found these on ebay, but i hever heard of them, has anyone heard of them?

CobraRed_96_GT · Jul 2, 2008

1. They're used.
2. They were replaced cuz they are too subtle
3. 215/215? Is that a stage 1/2? stock 200/209 @ .50
4. Never heard of them, usually not a good thing
5. They're for PI heads, don't assume since they have less lift and duration that it wont conflict with NPI flat top pistons - there's much more to it than that

98COBRA281 · Jul 2, 2008

CobraRed_96_GT said:
1. They're used.
2. They were replaced cuz they are too subtle
3. 215/215? Is that a stage 1/2? stock 200/209 @ .50
4. Never heard of them, usually not a good thing
5. They're for PI heads, don't assume since they have less lift and duration that it wont conflict with NPI flat top pistons - there's much more to it than that

i knew you were going to be the one that replyed to this, i hever haerd of them either, and 215/215, i was thinking the same thing, thats not big at all

navarro98gt · Jul 3, 2008

I am running these cams in my car along with Powerheads race ported heads. I dont like them at all. They dynoed at 264 rwhp/272 rwt un-tuned with the mods in my sig. I have a set of CMS Stage II's sitting in my trunk waiting to replace them.

98COBRA281 · Jul 3, 2008

navarro98gt said:
I am running these cams in my car along with Powerheads race ported heads. I dont like them at all. They dynoed at 264 rwhp/272 rwt un-tuned with the mods in my sig. I have a set of CMS Stage II's sitting in my trunk waiting to replace them.

what dont you like about them, and are they the same specs as these ones?

ive been looking into comp 262's too...

navarro98gt · Jul 3, 2008

98COBRA281 said:
what dont you like about them, and are they the same specs as the ones on ebay?

ive been looking into comp 262's too...

Yea, there the same specs.I guess I was just expecting more with the combo that I have. Low end power is almost non existent, and top end falls off lower in the RPM's than I would have liked. They sound great though!!

I cant wait to put in the CMS stage 2's to see home much more power they make...hopefully.

98COBRA281 · Jul 3, 2008

navarro98gt said:
Yea, there the same specs.I guess I was just expecting more with the combo that I have. Low end power is almost non existent, and top end falls off lower in the RPM's than I would have liked. They sound great though!!

I cant wait to put in the CMS stage 2's to see home much more power they make...hopefully.

check your pm's

CobraRed_96_GT · Jul 3, 2008

98COBRA281 said:
i knew you were going to be the one that replyed to this

yeah, i'm a loser

98COBRA281 · Jul 3, 2008

CobraRed_96_GT said:
yeah, i'm a loser

huh? i know that you know alot about 4.6 headswap, so i figured that you would be the one to answer my question, i wasent calling you out or anything

deftsound · Jul 3, 2008

navarro98gt said:
I am running these cams in my car along with Powerheads race ported heads. I dont like them at all. They dynoed at 264 rwhp/272 rwt un-tuned with the mods in my sig. I have a set of CMS Stage II's sitting in my trunk waiting to replace them.

well what did you expect? Key word: un-tuned...anytime you upgrade heads/cams a custom tune is mandatoroy

98COBRA281 · Jul 3, 2008

CobraRed_96_GT said:
5. They're for PI heads, don't assume since they have less lift and duration that it wont conflict with NPI flat top pistons

narrow98gt is running them on his pi swaped car, so i guess they will work with npi pistons.

navarro98gt · Jul 3, 2008

deftsound said:
well what did you expect? Key word: un-tuned...anytime you upgrade heads/cams a custom tune is mandatoroy

Very true.

Jacob_Royer · Jul 3, 2008

Seems they would be alot better than stock?

CobraRed_96_GT · Jul 3, 2008

98COBRA281 said:
huh? i know that you know alot about 4.6 headswap, so i figured that you would be the one to answer my question, i wasent calling you out or anything

Ah, I know it man. I was just calling myself a loser cuz i'm on these boards too much

98COBRA281 said:
narrow98gt is running them on his pi swaped car, so i guess they will work with npi pistons.

Touche, although i didn't say they wouldn't work. Just said don't assume they will based on lift/duration.

Jacob_Royer said:
Seems they would be alot better than stock?

Actually not necessarily. Cams that i've seen work best are directly tailored to the 4.6, even with a certain set-up. This is why VT was so popular for cams. So the stock PI cams' lift/duration/LSA were designed for the head with R&D as well. I have two friends who have had custom ground cams in the past that lost heaps of torque down low and gained hp past 5300rpms but not a whole lot, theoretical powerband for the cams looked like from 6400-7200 actually. One bought new different cams, the other eventually sold the car. I suggest going with what has worked for others - as most people (including me) don't know enough about cam specs or are even know the specs needed to determine the affect the cam has.

CENTENNIALSTANG · Jul 4, 2008

cams are a waste, no matter what on a NA motaw

roundboy · Jul 4, 2008

CENTENNIALSTANG said:
cams are a waste, no matter what on a NA motaw

Cams are not a waste i make very good power with my vt sage 2 cams....Their are a lot of ls1 cars that think i am spraying the car.

98COBRA281 · Jul 4, 2008

roundboy said:
Cams are not a waste i make very good power with my vt sage 2 cams....Their are a lot of ls1 cars that think i am spraying the car.

i know there not the best cams.... but there bigger then the pi cams i have, and i want a choppy idle

navarro98gt · Jul 4, 2008

Hope this works

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98COBRA281 · Jul 4, 2008

that sounds sick

roundboy · Jul 4, 2008

here is a vid of my car on start up..

my mustang gt

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