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68rustang

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Anotherthing to consider is where would you put the front drivetrain? There isn't much room under these cars.
 

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It would be really tough to do and make it look right/good. You'd really have to do a deal like the SN65 project and even then you'd have to find a car with a similar width floor and wheelbase. I'm not saying it can't be done, but I don't think it can be dine for short of $100k even if you have all the tools and knowledge. I thing SN65 said they'd be well over $100k once they were done when you consider the labor involved. The easiest way is via the 4x4 route, but I don't think that's what your looking for. My '94 LHS that I bought for $50 has a V6 that is mounted like my V8 in my '65, but the tranny mounts to the rear and wraps up under the pan and uses half shafts to the front end. Similar to the old Olds Toronado. Now if you were to somehow modify that tranny and tap out the rear with a driveshaft, that might work, but I think the actual tranny happens after the thing changes directions, so it might not work. The problem with just about all the AWD systems out there is that none of them, to my knowledge, will mate up to a SBF without major mods, and then most probably won't survive. Those that would survive are most likely rear engined vehicles. Maybe you could take a Porsche AWD drivetrain and use a driveshaft going back to the tranny ala the new Corvette. It'd help your weight bias if nothing else.
 

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I thought about AWD on the stang and I agree with the others who have said that it couldn't be done easily. The thing I'd like to do would be to make my stang a hybrid gas/electric car, but until ford makes on that mates up to a V8 that wouldn't be easy to do either for a number of different reasons. Of course maybe a system could be devised that had electric motors driving the front wheels, but it would all require a great deal of engineering, fabrication, and money.
 
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SLVRBOY said:
if i got an awd donor car i would want it to be a ford and i cant think of anything they have made that has been awd. let me know if they have
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Look no further than the Ford Sierra Sapphire Cosworth. OK, so it's 'only' a 4 cylinder, but you get 4WD, a turbo and there's loads of companies in the UK that can make it go as fast as you would like.

They're a similar size to a classic Pony, so swapping the bits over needn't involve a full on SN65 type project. I'm not sure, but the the RWD Sierra Cosworths came with a T5 trans, so you could possibly bolt up a V8 to that. Not sure if the transfer case, and three diffs could take the torque though.
 

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Awd

Probably 20 years ago I met someone who had taken a rusted-out 69 Vert body, and put it on a jeep frame. He left the jeep driveline in, so it looked kinda wierd!

Here's my suggestion: Find a rear-totalled SHO Taurus, graft the driveline into a Mustang, then find a way to hook up to the Mustang's rear....
 

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this heat must be getting to people
 
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Awd 32

The car that you probably saw was from Rad Rides by Troy, that car is faster than stink. it's called the Quadraduce

I think that the website is
www.radrides.com
 
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how about just making it take off and handle real good .

the awd might be something to try when i have more money and experience
 

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These are some pretty complicated ideas people have, you know ford trucks used C6 transmissions and some broncos use C4's. If you are using one of those, you may have to raise the car an inch or two, shorten the drive shaft and put in a 4x4 transfer case and new front axle that will work with the transfer case. you would have the choice of 2 or 4 wheel drive, I'm not sure about AWD, but this is my two cents. It would be expensive. And for those people asking why to do it? I would d it because I have never seen anyone do it before me and I want to be original.


Why are mine the two cents people always leave laying on the ground?
 

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A regular 4x4 transfer case will not work for an all wheel drive application. On dry pavement while driving straight everything will be just fine. WHen you enter a turn and the inside and outside wheels and front and rear wheels start rotating at different speeds in relation to each other the vehicle would handle pretty poorly and mechanical failure would likely result.

This is why most 4X4 clearly state that 4WD is only to be used when slippery conditions exist.
 

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if you want something that is totally not a rigged up backyard job, you're looking at a HUGE financial investment, like into the tens of thousands of dollars.

as many have pointed out, where are you going to first of all find a tranny to mate to a transfer case AND a SBF? then once you do that how are you going to get the power to the front wheels? it ends up being a packaging nightmare.

you can have a car that hooks up off the line and corners like it's on rails for a lot less money, and certainly a lot less work while retaining "archaic" RWD.
 

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Bullitt said:
where are you going to first of all find a tranny to mate to a transfer case AND a SBF?
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This is by no means meant to be a flame, but...

AWD Ford Explorer w/5.0L maybe??

Also, like you say, getting the thing in there and mated together would be the hard/expensive part.

I would bet (but only like 5 dollars) that they use the same front axle for the AWD explorers as they do the 4X4 explorers.

One other thing to consider, if you don't want to go fast, swap in the driveline from an AWD Ford Escape. I think I read somewhere that people are using those to make focus's(focii?) or Contours AWD.

Any way you look at it, it will be a PITA and a Money pit, but if you do it right it would probably be one of the only if not THE only one ever done.
 
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