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Back from the track... And now in the 12 sec club!

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Xcessiv

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Jackie Chan said:
HE shifted at 5500 rpms which is the only way to get a stock cammed/headed gt to trap at its potential.
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QU!CK said:
If your car likes to breath then it most definitely has some form of head work done. Stock 2v heads have a horrible case of asthma that kicks in @ higher revs.
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In the vid showing a race against my friend's LS1, I'm shifthing à 6000-6100 RPM and there's no sign of asthma.

I may have some minor head work, explaining the high trap speed... But still, the car is stockish.
 
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02mingreyconv

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Jackie Chan said:
i know one car that was tuned for just bolt ons and stock susp/weight type setup. His car trapped 107 with
a billion dyno pulls/tuning
plenum/tb/spacer
shorties/midpipe/dumps
pullies
3.73s
bogarts up front
and ran regular street tires out back
ON stock gears he went 12.9(without the headers) with 265rwhp or so and with a 1.8 something 60'. HE shifted at 5500 rpms which is the only way to get a stock cammed/headed gt to trap at its potential.

now with h/c more gear and slicks it runs 113, so I KNOW he didnt have cams before

maybe something else im forgetting.


without weight reduction or more mods and -2000' DA's, a 2v is not trapping that high.

now for a car with midpipe/cb/gears/cai to trap the same as his car with every single bolt on...dont think so, I'd have to see it to believe it....especially with my experience with these cars


gts with all of the boltons(lontubes) usually put down withing 5-10rwhp as one with the 3 basic mods of midpipe/tune/gears. The difference at the track comes from that power under the curve gained by pullies/plenum tb/ longtubes.
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I'm trapping at 111-112 with bolt ons..... and thats in my heavy a$$ vert.... I do consider my KB to be bolt on bc thats what I did.. bolted it on...

I had a bunch of passes where I could not get traction with my street tires and I kept on trapping @ 108 (2.2 60's)... that was in 90+* weather though...

I do have a hard time seeing his car being stock bolt on..... unless you think ported heads are bolt ons....
 
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BLUE03GT

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.... 60 degrees... 15ft above sea level... low humidity... still havent seen a bolt-on GT run anywhere close to 105mph.... some with more mods then you guys claiming 105-107mph... some with cams not trappin 105 as well...

get over it... 99% of GT's wont see 105mph with all the bolt-ons in the world
 

hotmustang331

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Exactly...there is always a freak car that someone "knows" about, but there is no way to know how much weight was removed, weather, and exact mods.
 
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Dave2000GT

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Xcessiv said:
This was my second experience ever at the quarter mile dragway...

Mustang GT 2001 with the following mods:
- 4.10
- exhaust (Flowmaster + MAC OR h-pipe)
- predator in "safe setup" (91 fuel)
- ET streets

That's it... No weight saving at all, no race fuel.

The result:


Best run
60 ft: 1.821
1/8 de mile: 8.286
1/4 de mile: 12.962 @ 107.1 mph

Best trap speed: 107.3 mph
Best 60 ft: 1.750
Best 1/8 mile: 8.24

I ran high 12s @ 107.X mph multiple times on both lane so it's not a "once in a life luck".
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I call complete utter BS. There is zero chance your car could run that without serious mods.
 

topless98gt

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That is AWESOME. I wish my putty little stang would run that. Hell! I run a 9.84 in the 1/8th. I'm embarrassed.
 

Jackie Chan

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Dave2000GT said:
I call complete utter BS. There is zero chance your car could run that without serious mods.
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just bolt ons will do it. another one of my friends went 12.9@106 with a 1.8 60' on street tires with stock manifolds/prochamber/pullies/plenum and tb/3.73s/cai/diablo tune in his 2001gt

he had eibachs and lcas as well. maybe a couple of little other things that are insignificant
 
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03mustangGT09

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ive read this whole thread. yes the guy has a fast time, maybe he has head work that he can't tell because he is not sure. i think either way if he is running thats awesome. canada has some damn good weather for it. it does seem pretty damn low time for jsut those mods though..but then again aren't their people who say they run 13.2 or so with the same thing..thats not too far from 12.96...that trap speed is damn high though. either way im just going to keep reading this to see waht you all say.
 

hotmustang331

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Jackie Chan said:
just bolt ons will do it. another one of my friends went 12.9@106 with a 1.8 60' on street tires with stock manifolds/prochamber/pullies/plenum and tb/3.73s/cai/diablo tune in his 2001gt

he had eibachs and lcas as well. maybe a couple of little other things that are insignificant
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So I take it that his car was quite abit faster than yours? Ever street race? Or line up at the track? He should pass you pretty quick at the end.
All im saying is that if everyone were to line up at the track, those with simular mods would all run the same...weather they have trapp 120 or 95 at different tracks on different days.
 

Jackie Chan

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hotmustang331 said:
So I take it that his car was quite abit faster than yours? Ever street race? Or line up at the track? He should pass you pretty quick at the end.
All im saying is that if everyone were to line up at the track, those with simular mods would all run the same...weather they have trapp 120 or 95 at different tracks on different days.
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dont think i understand what you are stating or asking.
 

hotmustang331

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Hmm? His car runs 12.9s @ 106 and yours does 12.9 @ 103. Was his car faster than yours or was it just the weather that let him trap 106?
 

Jackie Chan

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faster, my car was only good for 104mph tops. maybe tuned it could have trapped higher though. I always had guys creeping up on me at the top of the track when we would race. damn 200lb disadvantage
 

forpit2000gt

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do any of the slips show mph at 330, 1/8 AND 1000FT?
 
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Xcessiv

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forpit2000gt said:
do any of the slips show mph at 330, 1/8 AND 1000FT?
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Nope... :damnit:
 
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I live in north florida and have trapped 104.4 with K&N, midpipe, catback, short shifter, pullies, and removing the bottle. You have less and are trapping 3 mph higher? That is hard to believe, seeings as how my car is stronger then most around here plus you have gears. With the gears I can see the better et, but not a higher trap speed. If anything gears will make slow trap a little (feel free to correct me). 1 mph more then me I could see, but you must have had hurricane force tail winds to help you out.
 
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Xcessiv

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sixstang said:
I live in north florida and have trapped 104.4 with K&N, midpipe, catback, short shifter, pullies, and removing the bottle. You have less and are trapping 3 mph higher? That is hard to believe, seeings as how my car is stronger then most around here plus you have gears. With the gears I can see the better et, but not a higher trap speed. If anything gears will make slow trap a little (feel free to correct me). 1 mph more then me I could see, but you must have had hurricane force tail winds to help you out.
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Let's suppose that my Stang traps below 104 mph... Wouldn't I get spanked by Stage II SRT-4s and LS1s?

Here's a new video, fresh from last night. The oponent car was a 290 awhp STI (yes, whp... About 355 crank hp). Hid mods:
- Cobb AccessPort stage 2
- Custom tune which keeps 17.5 PSI until redline (vs 12 with the base tune)
- Catless setup
- Other goodies

The car runs 12.6-12.7 @ 107-108 mph... And he used his IC sprayer in 4th-5th gears durain the races. Shouldn't I get spanked with a 102-103 mph Stang?

Enjoy the video!
 
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sixstang

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Xcessiv said:
Let's suppose that my Stang traps below 104 mph... Wouldn't I get spanked by Stage II SRT-4s and LS1s?

Here's a new video, fresh from last night. The oponent car was a 290 awhp STI (yes, whp... About 355 crank hp). Hid mods:
- Cobb AccessPort stage 2
- Custom tune which keeps 17.5 PSI until redline (vs 12 with the base tune)
- Catless setup
- Other goodies

The car runs 12.6-12.7 @ 107-108 mph... And he used his IC sprayer in 4th-5th gears durain the races. Shouldn't I get spanked with a 102-103 mph Stang?

Enjoy the video!
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Turbo cars are going to have a lot harder time then an na car with higher elevation. But congratulations regardless, a 12 second car is a 12 second car.
 

forpit2000gt

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street racing, from a roll as well. What does this prove? Is there a car at the track that traps around 106-107 with a high 12 ET? Video a race with that car , at the track.
 

TheDamned

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This buy brings videos and timeslips and you guys still don't believe him ?
You guys are pathetic...
 

MustHang

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sixstang said:
I live in north florida and have trapped 104.4 with K&N, midpipe, catback, short shifter, pullies, and removing the bottle. You have less and are trapping 3 mph higher? That is hard to believe, seeings as how my car is stronger then most around here plus you have gears. With the gears I can see the better et, but not a higher trap speed. If anything gears will make slow trap a little (feel free to correct me). 1 mph more then me I could see, but you must have had hurricane force tail winds to help you out.
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One word ... Density Altitude, well ... two ...

You would probably trap much higher here in Canada with a DA close or even under seal level.
 
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