BaT: $227k+ Coyote fox auction

[Mustang5L5]

I've been following some other collector car markets (Porsche for example) and scratch my head at the realization that consignment and specialty collector/auction sales seem to trend higher than market.

Perhaps this is because of some perceived "pedigree" with regards to where folks with lots of money buy their cars. Someone who has $80K to drop on a coyote fox just isn't going to shop on FB marketplace for a car. They don't want to do the legwork or don't have the time to travel around looking for a clean 93 Cobra, so they throw money at the problem.

We see this with BAT sales and other consignment shops getting $25K or more for a clean LX with basic mods when that car would barely sell over $15K on FB marketplace.

The problem I have though is when folks claim these inflated prices are "what market value is". I'm not talking specifically about fox cars either, but other cars too. I do think for every 1 of this high dollar consignment sales you see, there are 10-20 private sales done at more reasonable costs that just aren't visible.

 

[hoopty5.0]

I've been following some other collector car markets (Porsche for example) and scratch my head at the realization that consignment and specialty collector/auction sales seem to trend higher than market.

Perhaps this is because of some perceived "pedigree" with regards to where folks with lots of money buy their cars. Someone who has $80K to drop on a coyote fox just isn't going to shop on FB marketplace for a car. They don't want to do the legwork or don't have the time to travel around looking for a clean 93 Cobra, so they throw money at the problem.

We see this with BAT sales and other consignment shops getting $25K or more for a clean LX with basic mods when that car would barely sell over $15K on FB marketplace.

The problem I have though is when folks claim these inflated prices are "what market value is". I'm not talking specifically about fox cars either, but other cars too. I do think for every 1 of this high dollar consignment sales you see, there are 10-20 private sales done at more reasonable costs that just aren't visible.

I think this is as accurate of an assessment as you can get. Unfortunately its lost on the " I KNOW WAT I GOTS" types when they see these things. What's also unfortunate is that I fall into this category of mouth breather more than I don't. I saw a coyote swapped bronco listed for $45k last night and thought to myself that I need to go buy a for sale sign this week.

 

[2000xp8]

Bring A Trailer has got to either be shady or full of fools (maybe both) with too much money.
From my other hobby (pinball and arcade machines) people have been listing car related games up on BAT and they are bringing crazy money, sometimes 5 to 10 times the numbers the machines really sell for.
The arcade machine ferrari f355 just sold on BAT for 20 grand (and it's been above 10 grand multiple times) when that was most likely a $3000 machine.
Checkpoint pinball machine (which has a porsche on it) is a data east pin (low quality), is probably valued at $2000-$3000 and it routinely sells on BAT above 8 grand.
The crazy part is that corvette is a better machine by a much better company and sells on BAT for less.
Which does indeed suggest that site does may just have amp'ed up rich guys throwing money at things they know nothing about.

Let's not forget too, BAT charges a buyers premium, so the prices are actually higher than what we see.

That mustang was pretty nice.
It surely cost more than 80 grand to build.
But i'm guessing it was built by a place that knows cars, but not foxes, because nobody that knows foxes would have done the suspension with qa1 parts on a budgetless build.
The wheels? You could buy these for less...

https://www.hrewheels.com/wheels/classic-gts-series/312-gts

 

[85GT4V]

I bought this on BaT and LOVE it!!! The whole rig…

 

[Noobz347]

I bought this on BaT and LOVE it!!!

Dude. Totally doesn't count. You didn't bring that trailer, you left with it.

 

[rednotch]

Bring A Trailer has got to either be shady or full of fools (maybe both) with too much money.
From my other hobby (pinball and arcade machines) people have been listing car related games up on BAT and they are bringing crazy money, sometimes 5 to 10 times the numbers the machines really sell for.
The arcade machine ferrari f355 just sold on BAT for 20 grand (and it's been above 10 grand multiple times) when that was most likely a $3000 machine.
Checkpoint pinball machine (which has a porsche on it) is a data east pin (low quality), is probably valued at $2000-$3000 and it routinely sells on BAT above 8 grand.
The crazy part is that corvette is a better machine by a much better company and sells on BAT for less.
Which does indeed suggest that site does may just have amp'ed up rich guys throwing money at things they know nothing about.

Let's not forget too, BAT charges a buyers premium, so the prices are actually higher than what we see.

That mustang was pretty nice.
It surely cost more than 80 grand to build.
But i'm guessing it was built by a place that knows cars, but not foxes, because nobody that knows foxes would have done the suspension with qa1 parts on a budgetless build.
The wheels? You could buy these for less...

https://www.hrewheels.com/wheels/classic-gts-series/312-gts

I remembered when that Doug guy opened his version of bat, local flipper dealers where buying and flipping to middle east buyers. Got out bid on a local corral members car by one, thing sat for almost decade and probably needed a refresh since it was a mostly a track toy, knew the owner of it from when he ran it at englishtown and atco. Local dealer who has a massive social media following from pretty much cake decorating old trucks and cars damn near trippled his money on it with a b.s back story and dressed up pics,make it shiny and lie is common on anything they sell. I don't use those sites to gauge anything other then some ppl got too much money to spend .

 

[Mustang5L5]

It's not an $11k set of wheels, closer to $14k.

I missed that. Even more wow. $11k for the wheels. $2500 to paint them and mount the $1500 set of tires on, and then $400 to put them on the car.


That’s about my only gripe on this car. But, if you look at total cost, it’s only 6% of what was spent on this car, not including price of car.

But it’s a nice build. Lots of attention to detail. What sucks for the owner is they bought it in 2009, and from 2020-2023 is when they did the build. I imagine Covid delays and all that. Looks like it was finished at end of 2023 and griots aquired it end of 2025. So owner enjoyed it less than 2 years before selling.

 

[gkomo]

I missed that. Even more wow. $11k for the wheels. $2500 to paint them and mount the $1500 set of tires on, and then $400 to put them on

I have to assume they are pumping numbers on the invoices for some reason. $400 to mount wheels? Come on bruh

 

[Mustang5L5]

I have to assume they are pumping numbers on the invoices for some reason. $400 to mount wheels? Come on bruh

I think the invoice stated they mounted them, checked for clearance, and installed rack limiters on the front. So really they changed time for that at $95/hr