Build Thread Bird_dog0347's Fox Has The Squirts

Mstng93SSP

You have a nice rear end there Dave.
15 Year Member
Nov 29, 1999
1,976
2,300
174
Mililani, Hawaii
Isn't that connection setup to only go on one way? It only has one flat spot for the bolt.
I'm pretty sure this is correct. If I remember correct it can only go one way because of the flat spot for the bolt. Maybe it is possible to get it to turn one or two teeth in either direction and the bolt will still go through, not sure?
 
  • Sponsors(?)


bird_dog0347

still married haven't seen testicles in years
5 Year Member
Jun 7, 2012
1,113
946
154
40
Little Elm, TX
I think the previous suggestion to clock the shaft to the rack is the only way to go, it's fairly finely splined there... just a PITA to pull it to do that.
 

stanglx2002

CT Material here
Mod Dude
Jul 7, 2005
1,412
984
154
I'm pretty sure this is correct. If I remember correct it can only go one way because of the flat spot for the bolt. Maybe it is possible to get it to turn one or two teeth in either direction and the bolt will still go through, not sure?
Yes, the steering rack to steering shaft connection is NOT splined all the way around. It has a flat spot to alignment of the two together.
 

90sickfox

I didn't really have an issue with the stink...
SN Certified Technician
Mar 2, 2015
5,348
4,388
203
42
The alignment is set. All you need to do is mark the tie rod ends with a line on the threaded part and the outer end. Loosen the nut and count the turns. The left tie rod needs to be turned in amd the right one turned out. Turn them a couple full turns each until the steering wheel centers. If you turn them the same amount the total toe will not change.
 

bird_dog0347

still married haven't seen testicles in years
5 Year Member
Jun 7, 2012
1,113
946
154
40
Little Elm, TX
I was not able to finish yesterday as it was my kids 12th birthday so I had family stuff. I did make some progress, just have to hook up the hoses and top off the fluids then start it up and check everything before I finish buttoning up the interior. I also got a cupholder section for the console so I'm looking forward to getting that installed too.

Q1GXHD1.jpg
 

bird_dog0347

still married haven't seen testicles in years
5 Year Member
Jun 7, 2012
1,113
946
154
40
Little Elm, TX
Well it's got working heat, no leaks, and a full coolant system again. All that is left is to put the console, radio, steering trim, and glove box back on it and clean everything up. All in all, not a terrible job to replace the core. The hardest part by far was trying to get the dash back up into position by myself and get screws started, you definately want a friend for that part. If I had a whole day straight to do it without interruption I think I could have finished in 3-5 hours total pretty easily being my first time and I was careful to bag and label every screw/nut.
 
  • Like
Reactions: General karthief

bird_dog0347

still married haven't seen testicles in years
5 Year Member
Jun 7, 2012
1,113
946
154
40
Little Elm, TX
Drove it to a meet last night with some local fox guys, I learned leaving the neighborhood that my speedo cable must have pulled out of the back of the cluster as it was no longer functioning, and my turn signals don't work so I'm guessing the orange wire pulled out of the hazzard switch since that still works. All good other than that, I'll get those issues fixed up today hopefully... it's my youngest son's b-day today so we will see.
 
  • Like
Reactions: RaggedGT

bird_dog0347

still married haven't seen testicles in years
5 Year Member
Jun 7, 2012
1,113
946
154
40
Little Elm, TX
Have not made much progress on this in the last few weeks cause I've had other things to do and other expenses that took away from fox funds. I had to replace all 4 tires on the daily so that cost me a grand... tires are getting stupid expensive.

I got the speedo cable replaced as well as went ahead and replaced both the hazard and headlight switches since the clips were broken off, now they actually stay in the bezel and I have a working speedo. It's about time to replace the battery though as it's the same one I got in the car when I bought it back in 2012 and today it started sounding pretty weak. I usually keep it on a tender, but I can't complain about an 8 year old battery.

I've got most of the parts for a full brake swap out which I will detail here, just waiting on my bushing kit to come in and then it'll be good to go.
 
  • Like
Reactions: hoopty5.0

hoopty5.0

mechanicus terribilis
Mod Dude
Dec 14, 2010
7,337
6,252
204
SW Houston
Have not made much progress on this in the last few weeks cause I've had other things to do and other expenses that took away from fox funds. I had to replace all 4 tires on the daily so that cost me a grand... tires are getting stupid expensive.

I got the speedo cable replaced as well as went ahead and replaced both the hazard and headlight switches since the clips were broken off, now they actually stay in the bezel and I have a working speedo. It's about time to replace the battery though as it's the same one I got in the car when I bought it back in 2012 and today it started sounding pretty weak. I usually keep it on a tender, but I can't complain about an 8 year old battery.

I've got most of the parts for a full brake swap out which I will detail here, just waiting on my bushing kit to come in and then it'll be good to go.
I know I keep saying it, but I'm going to drive my fox up soon, especially since the auto is gone. I wanna come see your IRS and how it fits, never seen one in person.
 

bird_dog0347

still married haven't seen testicles in years
5 Year Member
Jun 7, 2012
1,113
946
154
40
Little Elm, TX
Got back to working on the car a bit yesterday and today. The car is getting the ATS Brembo fronts, 43mm rears, power stop pads and rotors. I've got all the calipers painted now, with the stickers on the fronts under some clear coat. I'm using the VHT Caliper paint so hopefully it holds up well. Next step is to get the car in the air and pull the rear caliper brackets so I can clean them up and paint them since they are all rusty but I need the brackets for the IRS/Cobra brakes. Then I will also need to pull the fronts then get to installing and bleeding them.

I will also need to remember while it's on jack stands to pull the steering shaft off the rack to try to recenter my steering wheel after I replaced it.

uXjfCGq.jpg
 

bird_dog0347

still married haven't seen testicles in years
5 Year Member
Jun 7, 2012
1,113
946
154
40
Little Elm, TX
The ATS calipers are cheaper than the Cobra remans, right?
dunno, haven't priced the Cobra's lately... The ATS are about $125ish per side unloaded, then require either the bushing kit I got at like $175 or actually drill and permanently modify the SN95 spindles. Both use the Cobra rotors so that's a wash, and I'd assume the pads are around the same cost but more surface area on the ATS ones.
 
  • Like
Reactions: hoopty5.0

02 281 GT

Agreed...My wife has great Boobs
10 Year Member
Feb 3, 2009
2,258
1,383
174
Cabot, AR
dunno, haven't priced the Cobra's lately... The ATS are about $125ish per side unloaded, then require either the bushing kit I got at like $175 or actually drill and permanently modify the SN95 spindles. Both use the Cobra rotors so that's a wash, and I'd assume the pads are around the same cost but more surface area on the ATS ones.
Are the offset bushing inserts all that are needed besides calipers, brackets, and pads?

I'm thinking this, along with the 43mm piston rear calipers, may be a worthwhile upgrade on my '95. I definitely don't want to be modifying spindles.
 

bird_dog0347

still married haven't seen testicles in years
5 Year Member
Jun 7, 2012
1,113
946
154
40
Little Elm, TX
Assuming you already have the SN95 spindles on there and rear disk, yes. You could do it with just the calipers, mount kit, and front pads on the cheap. I went the extra step and got new rotors and pads all around as well as front stainless MM lines as I already had the rear MM lines from my IRS swap.

From Chris at S&S Engineering I bought the bushing kit which comes with the offset bushings, 12mm bolts, and spacers to go behind the rotor that center it between the pads. If you remove material from the caliper you don't need the spacers, up to you. The Kit was $175 shipped.

I got my Brembo stickers and Caliper paint from Amazon. So basically I'll be all in it for about a little less than $900 front and rear, and will have my old setup to sell to offset the cost, the only thing missing on it will be rear caliper cobra brackets and rear lines. But it will have rotors and pads with less than 1500 miles on the whole thing in great shape, the only real issue is my front calipers aren't a matching set... drivers side is Cobra lettering and passenger side is Bear.

From LMR I bought.

MM-MMBK8F87-93 MUSTANG FRONT STAINLESS
110$95.99


From Rock Auto:
Shopping Cart
Part
PriceCoreQuantityTotal
vehicles.png
1993 FORD TAURUS 3.8L V6
Brake & Wheel Hub : Caliper

DCARDONE 18B4537 {Click Info Button for Alternate/OEM Part Numbers} Remanufactured; Includes Bracket Info

Rear Left; with Metal Piston





Damaged calipers can lead to worn brake pads. Do you also need brake pads?
Do you also need Brake Fluid?
prevIMGbig.png
Part image
nextIMGbig.png
$28.79 $7.00 $35.79
DCARDONE 18B4536 {Click Info Button for Alternate/OEM Part Numbers} Remanufactured; Includes Bracket Info

Rear Right; with Metal Piston





Damaged calipers can lead to worn brake pads. Do you also need brake pads?
Do you also need Brake Fluid?
prevIMGbig.png
Part image
nextIMGbig.png
$29.89 $7.00 $36.89
2003 FORD MUSTANG 4.6L V8 Supercharged
Brake & Wheel Hub : Brake Pad

BPOWER STOP Z26627A {Click Info Button for Alternate/OEM Part Numbers} Z26 Street Warrior; Carbon-Fiber Ceramic; Includes Hardware Info

Rear





We also offer Rotor & Brake Pad Kits and Caliper, Rotor & Brake Pad Kits.
Z26-627A__ra_t.jpg
$40.79 $0.00 $40.79
Brake & Wheel Hub : Rotor

BPOWER STOP AR8146XPRHC Track Day; Pair Info

Rear [Wholesaler Closeout -- 30 Day Warranty]





We also offer Rotor & Brake Pad Kits and Caliper, Rotor & Brake Pad Kits.
AR8146XPR-HC__ra_t.jpg
$67.79 $0.00 $67.79
CPOWER STOP AR8144XPR Extreme Performance Drilled and Slotted; Pair ; Click Info for full list of components. Info

Front





We also offer Rotor & Brake Pad Kits and Caliper, Rotor & Brake Pad Kits.
AR8144XPR__ra_t.jpg
$91.79 $0.00 $91.79
2015 CADILLAC ATS 3.6L V6
Brake & Wheel Hub : Brake Pad

BPOWER STOP Z261001 {Click Info Button for Alternate/OEM Part Numbers} Z26 Street Warrior; Carbon-Fiber Ceramic; Includes Hardware Info

Front; JE55 Brakes; Brembo Calipers





Replacing your rotors is advised to maximize pad life.
Part image
$60.79 $0.00 $60.79
Brake & Wheel Hub : Caliper

AACDELCO 1722768 {#1722587, 22760031} GM Original Equipment Info

Front Right; Heavy Duty Brakes





Do you also need Brake Fluid?
<
Part image
nextIMGbig.png
$121.79 $0.00 $121.79
AACDELCO 1722777 GM Original Equipment Info

Front Left; Heavy Duty Brakes





Do you also need Brake Fluid?
<
172-2777_Primary__ra_t.jpg
nextIMGbig.png
$121.79 $0.00 $121.79
Subtotal$577.42
 

bird_dog0347

still married haven't seen testicles in years
5 Year Member
Jun 7, 2012
1,113
946
154
40
Little Elm, TX
Well I've gotten all 4 calipers and rotors mounted and setup with all new hardware/pads/rotors. Next up will be to disconnect all 4 of the old calipers and hook up the lines to the new ones then bleed them. In order to keep the fluid in the system and avoid getting any more air in there than I have to I left the 4 old ones on till I got to this point. I will also be swapping out the front brake lines with braided, the rears already are from when I installed the IRS.

My front wheels are also NASTY dirty and oily from when my front main seal started leaking and got a bit of oil flung on them. So getting them all clean will have to be done before it goes back together, and maybe get the wheel liners cleaned up a bit too, although at normal ride height you can't see in there. I did however confirm first that the wheel fits with no interference but I was pretty sure since I use an 18" wheel with a 1" spacer behind it I'd be ok.


GHQzYA6.jpg

RcCksxl.jpg

vdnM7ow.jpg
 
Thread starter Similar threads Forum Replies Date
H 87 T-bird W/92 5.0 Swap High Idle Fox 5.0 Mustang Tech 4
T Engine Swap T Bird To Stang 1996 - 2004 SN95 Mustang -General/Talk- 1
429supercobrajet In Need Of Compatable 4.6 For My 96 T-bird Help!!!!! Other Auto Tech 2
429supercobrajet In Need Of Compatable 4.6 For My 96 T-bird Help!!!!! 1996 - 2004 SN95 Mustang -General/Talk- 0
429supercobrajet In Need Of Compatable For My T-bird Help!!!!! SN95 4.6L Mustang Tech 8
429supercobrajet Frankenstein T-bird With 96 Gt Engine/drive Train The Welcome Wagon 6
429supercobrajet Progress Thread Frankenstien T-bird With 96 Gt Motor 1996 - 2004 SN95 Mustang -General/Talk- 0
NCsProdigy 87GT 87 Gt (5.0 H.o.) With 88 T-bird Motor (5.0 Non H.o.) Please Read And Help!!! Fox 5.0 Mustang Tech 2
Getbleached Sn95 V6 To 95 T-bird V8 Swap 1994 - 1995 Specific Tech 1
90lxwhite Any Of Y'all Ever Mess W 90's T-birds? 1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk- 13
BKM48198 92 T-bird 5.0 Engine Questions Fox Engine Swaparoo 4
T Need Help: 87 T-bird Master Cylinder In 66 Mustang Classic Mustang Specific Tech 1
ford_thoroughbred 88 T Bird help Fox 5.0 Mustang Tech 10
Maryland Stang Fox T Bird drive gets schooled 1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk- 3
T Is there a 5 lug rear brake rotor option for the '88 T-Bird turbo coupe setup? Fox 5.0 Mustang Tech 2
JoeDaddy 3.73 gears from a T-bird Turbo Coupe? SN95 4.6L Mustang Tech 3
U t-bird, lincoln and pickup truck heads...will they work? 1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk- 4
W What axles fit 87-88 T-bird rearend? Fox 5.0 Mustang Tech 2
Three50won Fox Mustang or Fox T-Bird or Mark VII... 1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk- 4
0 pi cams in t bird SN95 4.6L Mustang Tech 2
Hawaiian5.0GT 87-88 T-Bird/93 Mustang rear calipers&rotors Wheels Tires Brakes 0
5 88 T-bird 5.0 motor swap. The Welcome Wagon 7
89gt89 Injector Harness Rehab LSC, Cougar, T-Bird, 5.0 Fox 5.0 Mustang Tech 1
R motor from a 94 t-bird SN95 4.6L Mustang Tech 3
0 kamkazie bird+cs front bumpe=f***!!! 2005 - 2014 S-197 Mustang -General/Talk- 5
T 66 T-bird calipers, rotors & hubs Wheels/Tires/Brakes 2
jy3502 91 T BIRD FUEL SYSTEM PROBLEM Fox 5.0 Mustang Tech 1
Mustang5L5 Any 1993 Cobra owners or 87-88 t-bird axle owners? I need a couple pics 1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk- 26
ID89GT Will T bird springs work in a Fox? 1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk- 3
93 LX 5 lug Rotor hats for 87-88 T-bird rear disk setup Fox 5.0 Mustang Tech 11
Pauly-O T-bird 5.0 in GT fox body? Fox 5.0 Mustang Tech 4
6 4.6 t-bird question SN95 4.6L Mustang Tech 1
K cougar- t-bird dash in 79-93 ?? 1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk- 16
bluevenom867 Putting a 351W in a T-Bird S/C 1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk- 1
Vinnietbird Had the Bird painted.... 1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk- 7
93 LX Turbo T-bird Coupe Front Rotors..... Fox 5.0 Mustang Tech 4
8 88 T-Bird 5.0 Other Auto Tech 1
H t-bird axle lenght needed for 5 lug conversion. Fox 5.0 Mustang Tech 2
H t-bird axle lenght needed for 5 lug conversion. 2.3L (N/A & Turbo) Tech 0
K irs center section, t bird work? SVT Tech Forum 2
93 LX T-Bird SC Eaton Charger..... Fox 5.0 Mustang Tech 8
04GreyGtUSAF 4th generation T bird 1996 - 2004 SN95 Mustang -General/Talk- 0
D opinions on t-birds 2005 - 2014 S-197 Mustang -General/Talk- 26
C 5.8 vs 3.8 T-Bird Fox 5.0 Mustang Tech 4
Cook89Notch What do you guys think about this T-Bird... 1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk- 16
foxmustangman 5.0L T-Bird 1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk- 5
superstroke17 T-bird to mustang computer question Please help! Fox 5.0 Mustang Tech 6
bloopbloob Twin e-fan from 88 t-bird turbo coupe - will it fit? Fox 5.0 Mustang Tech 1
A T-Bird seats 1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk- 4
98V6 K.I.T.T. 4.6 help in my T-Bird SN95 4.6L Mustang Tech 2
Similar threads