blue collar opinion on mm & fast fords etc

90lxwhite · Mar 22, 2013

I have a subscription to Muscle Mustangs and Fast Fords. At first I was excited when a new issue arrived but now not so much. While it is still nice to have something to look forward to I find myself not really into the magazine anymore. The reason I am kind of turned off by it is because I'm tired of reading about how some guy purchased a $60,000 car and then he put another $100,000 worth of mods into. That is cool and all but I just can't relate. I'll never own a thousand horsepower gt500 and I wish that they would include something a little bit more relatable to the common folk. That and half of the magazine is filled with advertising space. Just my humble opinion

mike

84Ttop · Mar 22, 2013

I can agree.. While its nice to drool over 100,000$ cars,ill never have one either. That is part of the reason I was so surprised when they posted my video on their Facebook page being as ugly as my car is, granted its not a magazine spot but still. I can't afford to paint my car right now and it will just have to be ugly. I can't remember a time where they have paid any attention to a car that was three colors, lol. Maybe things are turning around, who knows. I would love to see them get back to more of their roots and cover more old school 5.0 stuff.

88LX5.Oh · Mar 22, 2013

When I feel like getting a hard on for cool mustangs, I just come here. There's plenty of nice Mustangs on SN. Like yours 84Ttop. I'd leave that beast the 3 colors it is and kick ass with it.

84Ttop · Mar 22, 2013

Thanks, nice fox bodies are in no short supply around here. It seems to me that every one here has an awesome ride!

90lxwhite · Mar 22, 2013

84Ttop said:
Thanks, nice fox bodies are in no short supply around here. It seems to me that every one here has an awesome ride!

and plenty of dreams

aar0s · Mar 22, 2013

The rodders journal and Hot Rod (dad has a 'script) are the only two car mags I read anymore. I gave up on mustang magazines a long time ago.

mikestang63 · Mar 22, 2013

I used to get Super Fords back in the day, but I think they merged with one of the rags. I still get 5.0 because the wifey gets it for me as a Bday gift every year, but I barely read it over the past few years. More than 1/2 of the mag is ads, and most is devoted to the SN97, which maybe 1 article on Fox bodies. When they do run a tech article, they leave out most of the steps, and often don't show the results either on the dyno or on the track. Usually when a sponsor has a product to sell, they run an install next to the big full page ad.

If you want a real race mag, check out http://www.nmradigital.com/race-pages-magazine

90lxwhite · Mar 22, 2013

yeah few foxes in the new mags and even few 94 and 95's. But I suppose that's due to companies pushing new products for the new models.

dgollem · Mar 22, 2013

I get it but probably will not renew. Tired of reading about people paying other people to build high end cars for them. Rarely see a car built or modified by the owner much anymore but I do like the few that I see.

CarMichael Angelo · Mar 22, 2013

Seems a bunch of wasted whining here, as the body style has trended from the fox for over 20+ years now. Of course the mag is going to cater to the S197 bodystyle,..it is vastly more popular than any other mustang platform fielded by Ford in decades. That, and the fact that frustration directed to this forum amounts to didly squat when the complaints are not directed at them (the magazines) in the first place.
Personally I don't buy the magazine to see an everyday car,..I can see more than a few of those on any given saturday night. I appreciate the advertisers as a one stop source for shopping whenever I need something new.

So, as an opposing view....I got no problem with either of the mags.

'66 coupe · Mar 22, 2013

Some of the tech stuff is interesting, like the recent comparison of the 32v motors. But I was never interested in the high budget builds or all out drag cars. I let my Modified Mustangs and Fast Fords Magazine expire for the same reason; I like modified classics, but most of the cars were too extreme for my taste. Sometimes it seems like people are building(or paying others to build) cars more capable than they need, just for the purpose of showing off how much money they have. I've never been one to care for the show-off type of person, and the car hobby seems to attract these types sometimes.

I did notice that 5.0 Mustang was doing a project car based on a budget build(GT40 heads, Explorer Intake, getting other parts off craigslist, etc...). This is the type of project I like to see.
http://www.mustang50magazine.com/te...al_building_a_cool_project_1991_ford_mustang/

Then there's Matt King's 1984 Mustang Budget Race Car:
http://www.hotrod.com/projectbuild/113_0502_1984_mustang_gt/viewall.html

Too bad these types of projects aren't more common in the big magazine. Advertisers probably hate the idea of budget builds.

91TwighlightGT · Mar 22, 2013

dgollem hits the nail on the head for me, though. Every time you read about a feature car it goes something like this...

John Smith bought this 91 LX from some old lady, and decided after six months he didn't have enough power. So, he shipped the car off to such and such engine builders to build and install a 347/393/408 take your pick here. Then, after he blew up that combo he decided to upgrade to a 408/427/460 and also paid someone else to install a blower/turbo and tune the car.

After that, the car went to the suspension shop where the owner dropped another 8K for some other people to work on his car. After all this work, John finally decided to do some body modifications and dropped it off at yet another shop for some more friendly people to do more work to his car. John did pick out the custom color that was from a Porsche though.

John is so proud of his car because it runs 8's in the quarter mile and wins at all the shows. John doesn't own a screwdriver. The end.

Shakerhood · Mar 22, 2013

I havent bought any Mustang Mags in years either.

pearlnotchback · Mar 22, 2013

91TwighlightGT said:
dgollem hits the nail on the head for me, though. Every time you read about a feature car it goes something like this...

John Smith bought this 91 LX from some old lady, and decided after six months he didn't have enough power. So, he shipped the car off to such and such engine builders to build and install a 347/393/408 take your pick here. Then, after he blew up that combo he decided to upgrade to a 408/427/460 and also paid someone else to install a blower/turbo and tune the car.

After that, the car went to the suspension shop where the owner dropped another 8K for some other people to work on his car. After all this work, John finally decided to do some body modifications and dropped it off at yet another shop for some more friendly people to do more work to his car. John did pick out the custom color that was from a Porsche though.

John is so proud of his car because it runs 8's in the quarter mile and wins at all the shows. John doesn't own a screwdriver. The end.

8's in the quarter with the A/C blowing

Illuminator · Mar 22, 2013

Likewise.....had Super Ford for years, then when they traded over to new mag I let sub expire.

pearlnotchback · Mar 22, 2013

I like to read about Joe Blows beat up ass fox that he loves and cherishes. The fox that was built at home in the garage on his spare time after he puts in a days work, helps feed the baby etc. The guy that takes care of his family first and does those little side jobs on the weekends just to have a little extra money to put into his project. The car may take a while to finish but he built it himself.

90lxwhite · Mar 23, 2013

Yeah see that's what I'm talking about, I dig the budget builds because that might be some useful information for me. I also agree w/ pearl fox about joe blow having shops modify their cars to death w/ their skys the limit budget but most times its not even an "old lady fox." In this months issue the cover story is about a guy who has a '00 cobra r that has had 2 or 3 engines put in (by so and so tuner shop) b/c he destroyed em and the gist of the article is that the editors are proud of him for driving and racing such a rare car and not letting it sit in a museum. And as for madmike:

madmike1157 said:
Seems a bunch of wasted whining here, as the body style has trended from the fox for over 20+ years now. Of course the mag is going to cater to the S197 bodystyle,..it is vastly more popular than any other mustang platform fielded by Ford in decades. That, and the fact that frustration directed to this forum amounts to didly squat when the complaints are not directed at them (the magazines) in the first place.
Personally I don't buy the magazine to see an everyday car,..I can see more than a few of those on any given saturday night. I appreciate the advertisers as a one stop source for shopping whenever I need something new.

So, as an opposing view....I got no problem with either of the mags.

I don't think we are "whining" because there aren't enough foxes, I believe it's because we're tired of reading about "Jay Lenno's" cars. It'd be a more enjoyable read if they would test cars and parts that are more obtainable for the masses. I would also like to see more product testing that wasn't so manufacture biased. For example I'd like to see a magazine test say test cylinder head a vs cylinder head b and give the dyno results instead of seeing trick flow test their heads at the trickflow testing facilities. (with their full page ad on the adjoining page)

FordRacing302 · Mar 23, 2013

madmike1157 said:
Seems a bunch of wasted whining here, as the body style has trended from the fox for over 20+ years now. Of course the mag is going to cater to the S197 bodystyle,..it is vastly more popular than any other mustang platform fielded by Ford in decades. That, and the fact that frustration directed to this forum amounts to didly squat when the complaints are not directed at them (the magazines) in the first place.
Personally I don't buy the magazine to see an everyday car,..I can see more than a few of those on any given saturday night. I appreciate the advertisers as a one stop source for shopping whenever I need something new.

So, as an opposing view....I got no problem with either of the mags.

I'm suscribed to MM & FF and they had a spread in an issue a couple of months ago about a beautifully built fairmont, and the first thing that popped into my head was madmike...Just thought I'd let you know.

CarMichael Angelo · Mar 23, 2013

FordRacing302 said:
I'm suscribed to MM & FF and they had a spread in an issue a couple of months ago about a beautifully built fairmont, and the first thing that popped into my head was madmike...Just thought I'd let you know.

Well,.....I appreciate that. Maybe some day that article you'll read about a Fairmont will be about the car I built,..but not any time soon. Lately I have been surrounded by the temptation to stay clean, never having to worry about "finding the time after work" to go into the garage and work on my car,...and NOT funneling every spare dime into the gotta have cool factor replacement part for some non-running project.

Like I said, the cure for all of the above is all around me. (since I work at Carmax now)...... ......It's called an S197.
I'm almost positive I'm gonna cave in as soon as I get the damn Victory running and sold.

CarMichael Angelo · Mar 23, 2013

90lxwhite said:
Yeah see that's what I'm talking about, I dig the budget builds because that might be some useful information for me. I also agree w/ pearl fox about joe blow having shops modify their cars to death w/ their skys the limit budget but most times its not even an "old lady fox." In this months issue the cover story is about a guy who has a '00 cobra r that has had 2 or 3 engines put in (by so and so tuner shop) b/c he destroyed em and the gist of the article is that the editors are proud of him for driving and racing such a rare car and not letting it sit in a museum. And as for madmike:

I don't think we are "whining" because there aren't enough foxes,

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I believe it's because we're tired of reading about "Jay Lenno's" cars. It'd be a more enjoyable read if they would test cars and parts that are more obtainable for the masses. I would also like to see more product testing that wasn't so manufacture biased. For example I'd like to see a magazine test say test cylinder head a vs cylinder head b and give the dyno results instead of seeing trick flow test their heads at the trickflow testing facilities. (with their full page ad on the adjoining page)

I wasn't actually accusing anybody of sniveling,....I was just saying that complaining that the magazine lacks this or that,...or has too much of this or that, is misdirected via venting on this forum (where nobody can do anything about it anyway).

I like to see a well done restoration, or restomod as well as a high dollar shop build. I think there are plenty of feature examples in every month that are not "Jay Leno builds" to reinforce that.

But,

It's the high dollar builds that I get all of my inspiration from. (knowing that I too will never be able to pay somebody to do it for me). Seeing how the other big money guy did it is how I come up w/ my DIY versions for a fraction of the cost.

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