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Changed gear ratio but never recaliberated, wrong mileage?

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derek02gt

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hey guys, i changed to 3.73 gears about a year ago and havent recaliberated the computer so my speedo is off..did that affect how many miles read on my car? and if so..how bad? i went from stock 3.27's to 3.73 on a 5spd manual..let me know thanks.
 
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derek02gt said:
hey guys, i changed to 3.73 gears about a year ago and havent recaliberated the computer so my speedo is off..did that affect how many miles read on my car? and if so..how bad? i went from stock 3.27's to 3.73 on a 5spd manual..let me know thanks.
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I had wondered the same thing. But when I started thinking about it I don't think so. Your tires are still turning the same amount as they were before so your
odometer reading should be correct.
 

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Haha, no - sorry guys. The odo uses the same speed pickup on the tranny as the speedo. So your odo ticks the same amount faster like your speedo does.

To be exactly, 14.1% faster when you changed form 3.27 to 3.73.

Blumi
 

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Mine's the same way. When I get an SCT tune, it will be addressed.
 

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yep your odometer is not reading the right miles. If you hjave been driving around for a year like that its probably showing a good amount more miles than you actually have.
 
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Your odometer is definitely off.
 

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The milege would have been high by an even greater amount if you had been running 4.10s. If you have a flash tuner or SpeedCal, you could approximately correct the odometer for all this time you have been running with an uncorrected speedodometer, if you know when the 3.73s were installed.
 

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With these tuners what would prevent somone saying that they have 4.10s but really don't. Would your mileage be less than what is actually on the car?
 

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Z28 KILR said:
With these tuners what would prevent somone saying that they have 4.10s but really don't.
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Nothing prevents someone from saying they have 4.10s whether or not they have a tuner. One guaranteed way to verify the gear ratio is to jack up a rear wheel and count driveshaft revolutions per one complete turn of the rear wheel


Z28 KILR said:
Would your mileage be less than what is actually on the car?
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If someone with a tuner loaded the setting for 4.10s but actually had stock gears, the true mileage on the car would actually be greater than that shown on the odometer. In the case of a 99-04 GT with stock 3.27s, setting the speedometer correction to 4.10s with a tuner would for instance would only show 1000 miles on the odometer for every 1,253.8 miles actually driven.
 
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thanks for the replies people. I do know the exact date i got them installed and the exact mileage as I had a ford dealer put them in for me. I also have 18inch tires in 275/35/18 around the whole car..that wouldnt do anything would it? this is so depressing as I ruined the resale value bigtime..I just want to know how bad I screwed it up.
 

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Since you know the mileage at the time the gears were installed, you can get the ododmeter back to the correct mileage if you have a tuner. The tire change also affected the odometer but actually has offset the effect of the 3.73s somewhat
 

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my car's previous owner had gears installed. don't think he ever had it tuned... i've been driving it since summer of '03. don't want to think about how off my mileage is. i bought it with 14K, i now have 49.2K. i didn't think i drove it that much. now i know i probably didnt....
 

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Anybody wanna buy a speed cal? $40...only used for 6 mos.

I was gonna put in the FOR SALE section.
 

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Give Me TP said:
Since you know the mileage at the time the gears were installed, you can get the ododmeter back to the correct mileage if you have a tuner. The tire change also affected the odometer but actually has offset the effect of the 3.73s somewhat
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I did'nt know you could turn back the odometer with a tuner. your sure? I dont think thats possible. BUt in any case the tire size he has on the car would not effect the odometer because it is the same aspect ratio as the stock tire and wheel size.
 

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03redfiregt said:
I did'nt know you could turn back the odometer with a tuner. your sure? I dont think thats possible. BUt in any case the tire size he has on the car would not effect the odometer because it is the same aspect ratio as the stock tire and wheel size.
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One complete rotation of an 18" diameter tire goes a longer linear distance than a 17" diamter tire. Since odometer readings are essentially based on transmission tail shaft revolutions a car with an 18" tire is going to travel further for a given number of tail shaft revolutions, thereby causing the odometer to understate (slightly) the actual mileage.

You are not "turning back" the odometer with a tuner. That is not possible and would be also be illegal. You can "correct" the odometer by temporarily recalibrating the speedometer to (in this case) 4.10s or 4.30s for the required mileage to get it back to or close to the actual mileage. Then the speedometer could be recalibrated to 3.73s from then on. A tuner can also correct for tire diamter changes, others here on the boards have done so.
 

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Give Me TP said:
One complete rotation of an 18" diameter tire goes a longer linear distance than a 17" diamter tire. Since odometer readings are essentially based on transmission tail shaft revolutions a car with an 18" tire is going to travel further for a given number of tail shaft revolutions, thereby causing the odometer to understate (slightly) the actual mileage.

You are not "turning back" the odometer with a tuner. That is not possible and would be also be illegal. You can "correct" the odometer by temporarily recalibrating the speedometer to (in this case) 4.10s or 4.30s for the required mileage to get it back to or close to the actual mileage. Then the speedometer could be recalibrated to 3.73s from then on. A tuner can also correct for tire diamter changes, others here on the boards have done so.
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All the guys with tuners, and 500 miles left on their warranty are now programming their cars with 8.50 gears....
 

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^^^^^ exactly

they're gonna forget now and then though and get speeding tickets out the wazoo
 
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i too have been driving my stang aorund for a whole month with the 4.10s and the speedo uncalibrated. i want to fix it as well as the milage. now im reading here about tuners and whatnot but my question is can i do the same with a chip? they have similar descriptions and are a lot cheaper. can i recalibrate the speedo and clear off the code my midpipe throws?
 
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