Thanks! I have a 2008 Cobalt sport and its been a great car at 175K and staying domestic I really didn't see any other viable options. I will not own a Ford crossover, car (besides Mustang) or SUV and I will not even look at a FCA/Fiat.Here's the thing about the Malibu, Cruze, Regal, and similar GM cars...
You're either going to NEVER have a problem with it and it'll be Toyota-like in it's reliability, or it'll be a turd from day one.
As far as GM stating that issue is "completely normal", it's not. Find another GM dealership.
You'd asked if the powertrain needed to be dropped to do a water pump on a 3.5 in a FWD Ford.Thank you for the details. I stopped paying attention in the last ten years since I was planning on driving the 2005’s on trips and days the classics should not be out.
You're one of like two people I've ever heard of that liked their Cobalt.Thanks! I have a 2008 Cobalt sport and its been a great car at 175K and staying domestic I really didn't see any other viable options. I will not own a Ford crossover, car (besides Mustang) or SUV and I will not even look at a FCA/Fiat.
I'll disagree with you all day on the Ford 3.5 from having worked for a Ford dealership. Those engines are trash.The water pump failed in my 2008 taurus 3.5. Filled the crankcase with coolant. Wife drove it about 5 miles home. I loosened all the mounts and slid the engine all the way to the drivers side. Bought 20 dollar camshaft holders on Amazon and changed the pump and oil. That was 50k ago and its still running great.
I'd stay away from all the Ford small crossovers. If it isn't a v6 explorer I wouldn't buy one. As far as Jeep goes....the Renegade is junk....right along with the Compass.
All the Chevy are garbage...plagued with issues on a the 4 cylinders. If its idling rough its probably a camshaft solenoid thats going out ( very common )....or the actuator...which sucks. Either way, if it was those issues the check engine light would come on.
On newer cars a bunch of them say the car will run on 87....with direct injection and higher compression. I've found every last one to run better on 89 or 91. I run 93 in my ecoboost and could tell the difference when the dealership 87 ran out.
I'm particularly though because I work at a used car dealer. If it isn't a jeep wrangler they can keep it. The Grand Cherokee is hit and miss with minor issues....the regular Cherokee is a complete POS.
The biggest issues with the Ford crossovers involve transmissions....and engine issues. The 3.5 v6 is a very good engine in my opinion. I've seen many of them with over 300k with no major issues. Even when the water pump fails it doesn't usually take out the engine.
The most reliable cars I've seen have been hyundai....they had an issue with the some engines up until about 2014. The bearings would eat themselves. I think it was due to the recommended regular oil. They have the best warranty out there 10 year bumper to bumper or 100k miles. My wife's 19 Sante Fe has unlimited for the powertrain and 10 / 100k for everything else. Use synthetic or change the oil religiously and won't have an issue.
Same thing.Hyundai and Kia very similar?
I'll disagree with you all day on the Ford 3.5 from having worked for a Ford dealership. Those engines are trash.
I agree 100% on Hyundai reliability though. I was at Hyundai when they recalled the 2.4 and 2.0 turbo in the Sonata. I honestly don't think oil had anything to do with it because we were running Motorcraft synthetic blend (we carried Ford and Hyundai, as well as three other import lines, Hyundai was the only one without their own oil, so we used either Motorcraft oil or AC Delco oil from our Suzuki line in them), and were still seeing the same issues as everyone else. Only Penske-owned Hyundai dealerships were using a better oil than we were and they saw the same bottom-end failures. I firmly believe the issue was in the metallurgy. The reason for that belief is because the oil formulation, mileage on the engine, how it was driven, and oil change interval didn't matter. Little old ladies with 10,000 miles on their car that had already had three oil changes and had never seen 3000rpm were throwing rods at the same time as 200,000 mile ex rental cars on their third trip through the buy-here-pay-here market around Ft. Hood. Time was the factor. Cars built in 2010 started suffering bottom-end failures in 2013, 2011 in 2014, and so on.
Hyundai publicly said the issue was incorrectly installed rod bearings in a select run of engines assembled in Ulsan, but later issued a new part number for the bearings and recalled ALL of the engines. My theory based on what I saw is that the bearings themselves were having some kind of chemical reaction with an ingredient common to all modern motor oils. This would explain why mileage, driving habits, and even maintenance intervals didn't seem to matter much.
There was another issue with the same engine in the Santa Fe where the oil pump would just fail with little warning. I think they got that ironed out a few years ago. That one was crazy. I experienced it first-hand when a Santa Fe with 20,000 miles got traded in while I was performing scheduled maintenance on it. I finished all the work, went for the test drive since it was now a CPO inspection, and it started knocking on the way back to the dealership. The oil pump had just failed during the test drive. This car had already had four oil changes, previous owner brought it in every 4k like clockwork. We went through a lot of oil pumps in Santa Fes after that, and then after a few months it stopped for the most part. The crazy thing is that Sonatas with the identical engine didn't have oil pump problems, and Santa Fes never developed widespread rod bearing issues.
The rest of the lineup didn't have major pattern failures... At all. Minor issues? Yup, and Hyundai is damned good about getting TSBs out for those. Major, calling a tow truck kinds of issues? Not really. Working for Hyundai for five years is why working for BMW pisses me off so much. BMW wishes they could build a car like Hyundai.
The turbo versions eat the timing chain and cam phasers too. Not something I'd call reliable.If it wasn't for the water pump issue, the Ford engines would be pretty solid. My day job is used car sales, and we've sold a fair amount of Fords with that engine. It is a shame that the water pump is designed the way it is because they are otherwise reliable.
See, this, I wonder about.As far as Hyundai/Kia... Nope, I don't agree at all that they are good quality. The 1.8L engines in the 11+ Elantra, Forte, and Soul are very problematic. They piston slap at 100K, and they are HIDEOUSLY expensive to replace, which is always an indicator of high demand. If it wasn't for engine issues, the Hyundai/Kia line would be pretty nice, too. The 11+ Sonata engines also have problems, and are also expensive. The 2.4L in the 6-10 Sonata's were junk, too.
The turbo versions eat the timing chain and cam phasers too. Not something I'd call reliable.
That, in general, I'll agree with.I'll admit I don't have much direct experience with the Turbo engines. With that said, in my experience Turbo anything is pretty much unreliable. I'm really not on board with the small turbocharged engine for fuel economy over a bit larger N/A engine. As far as I can tell, it simply means marginally better (and sometimes not) fuel economy with a lot more maintenance issues.