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Doc GTO

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metroplex said:
Bone stock, the 98-02 CVPIs will run an earth-shattering low 16s in the 1/4 mile.
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I'm taking it to T&T April 4th. My goal is 15s!!! Smoking!!!
 

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What kind of mods do you have?
 

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metroplex said:
What kind of mods do you have?
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Not much. I'm going to do a little weight reduction (i.e spare tires, jack, ect and maybe rear seat). I've installed a K&N and replaced the entire exhaust from the manifolds back with dual 2 1/4 inch with H-pipe, resonators and magnaflows in the rear. Maybe use the Superchips 1725 tuner. Who knows what it will run but I'm just going to have some fun!
 

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Did you have a shop custom make the exhaust? There aren't any aftermarket kits available for the Crown Vic.
 

bigcat

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metroplex said:
In 2003, Ford re-designed the chassis and went to new wheels, resulting in the use of different center caps (if I recall correctly). Ford is now using 17" steel wheels on the late model P71s. FYI, the 2003-up Panthers can use take-off S197 wheels, and use the same 235/55R17 tire size.
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can S197s use panther take off steel wheels? how do they fit? seems as if it would be a cheap spare or winter wheel for S197 owners.
 

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bigcat said:
can S197s use panther take off steel wheels? how do they fit? seems as if it would be a cheap spare or winter wheel for S197 owners.
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That's a good question that I asked awhile ago and did not receive an answer. I have read about 03-up Panther owners successfully using take-off S197 GT wheels. I'd imagine the 17" steel CVPI wheels would fit the S197s.
 

bigcat

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metroplex said:
That's a good question that I asked awhile ago and did not receive an answer. I have read about 03-up Panther owners successfully using take-off S197 GT wheels. I'd imagine the 17" steel CVPI wheels would fit the S197s.
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yes but i hate to assume they would fit. there may be a caliper clearance issue, or some other small differene that would not make them a direct interchange. not worth the effort to get some, and then need a spacer to make them work.
 

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Congrats on the “Big Ford Car” purchase. I’m glad I’m not the only one around here sporting a nearly 4,000lb Luxobarge anymore.

So what are the plans for her.....I know the GTO is going to be your primary Go To car, but have you considered making any “real” power with the Vic? There are a couple of great options out there.

Allen Supechargers, where I bought my blower from makes a great kit for the Vics too. They’re the ones who designed the Kenny Brown “Panther” kit that came out a few years back. Check it out.....

http://allen-superchargers.com/CrownVictoria/00-02.html

 

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The AED kit will make most Panthers run low 14s bone stock, still much slower than stock S197 GTs. The 98-02 Panthers weigh about 4100 lb race ready (driver + minimal gas in the tank) whereas the 03-up Panthers can weigh up to 4300 lb race ready!

My 00 HPP P73 last ran a 15.0x before the bulk of my mod frenzy.
 

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metroplex said:
The AED kit will make most Panthers run low 14s bone stock, still much slower than stock S197 GTs.
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True, but it's enough to run with a '99-'04 SN95 if you catch the driver napping a little. Not to mention with additional mods and a pulley swap you can make em run pretty hard. With what I've got in my set up with my Cat, I expect to see mid/high-12's this summer. And I'm sucking it all through an IRS.
 

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metroplex said:
Did you have a shop custom make the exhaust? There aren't any aftermarket kits available for the Crown Vic.
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It was custom from this shop in town. They do good work and it sounds awsome! They used Maurader tips on it so it does not look overdone.
 

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Gearbanger 101 said:
Congrats on the “Big Ford Car” purchase. I’m glad I’m not the only one around here sporting a nearly 4,000lb Luxobarge anymore.

So what are the plans for her.....I know the GTO is going to be your primary Go To car, but have you considered making any “real” power with the Vic? There are a couple of great options out there.

Allen Supechargers, where I bought my blower from makes a great kit for the Vics too. They’re the ones who designed the Kenny Brown “Panther” kit that came out a few years back. Check it out.....

http://allen-superchargers.com/CrownVictoria/00-02.html

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This is dangerous information!!! Maybe throw in some 42 pounder injectors with the kit and add some spray!!!
 

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Nice find Doc! LOL... The man and I were just commenting today on the Crown Vics. Wouldn't mind having a fat prom queen sittin' in the driveway for a quick jaunt to the local mart for a 6 pack and a sa'mich.
 

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Nice find Doc! LOL... The man and I were just commenting today on the Crown Vics. Wouldn't mind having a fat prom queen sittin' in the driveway for a quick jaunt to the local mart for a 6 pack and a sa'mich.
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Thanks Jenn. I like the new addition! Any plans for the TA?
 

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Doc GTO said:
Thanks Jenn. I like the new addition! Any plans for the TA?
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Ooooo the plans Doc. Only need to find the $ and time. I already started with some needed maintenance on the UCA bushings and a few hours working a thousand pounds of sand and debris out of the dual coolers. More sand in the radiator fins than on the beach.

We will then go to shocks/springs/suspension. Preserving the weak 10 bolt is necessary until we can get a new rear diff. So TC is off and I am trying to limit wheel hop. Difficult considering the 340 ftLbTq and a heavy right foot.

Although the 10 bolt is lightweight and therefore practicle for weight distribution and containment, she is prone to failure. So, if all goes well we will bust out a 12 bolt 9" rear with auburn locker and replace the weak 10 bolt.

Better to get the big dog before this happens to the 10 bolt. I am, afterall, less than careful with my vehicles.

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Doc GTO

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Ooooo the plans Doc. Only need to find the $ and time. I already started with some needed maintenance on the UCA bushings and a few hours working a thousand pounds of sand and debris out of the dual coolers. More sand in the radiator fins than on the beach.

We will then go to shocks/springs/suspension. Preserving the weak 10 bolt is necessary until we can get a new rear diff. So TC is off and I am trying to limit wheel hop. Difficult considering the 340 ftLbTq and a heavy right foot.

Although the 10 bolt is lightweight and therefore practicle for weight distribution and containment, she is prone to failure. So, if all goes well we will bust out a 12 bolt 9" rear with auburn locker and replace the weak 10 bolt.

Better to get the big dog before this happens to the 10 bolt. I am, afterall, less than careful with my vehicles.

View attachment 393319
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Put a TA girdle on it. Some cheap insurance until the 12 bolt goes in!

Ok, back on topic - The P71 CVPI goes to the drag strip next Wednesday. I can't wait to get my awsome #s . . .
 
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