Fox Being Phased Out Of Media....

madmike1157 said:

Thats' bull, if there were so many of those dork mobiles built then where are they now? Why are there only 23,000 messages relating to II's versus 1.5 million fox messages just on this forum alone? If Mustang II's could have sex, they'd all be GAY.
Even being overly fair,....Viagra was put into production specifically for II owners.
Talk about an inferiority complex,..."Hello McFly!,...You In there Mc Fly???"
I'd rather ride a vespa to an outlaw biker bar then show up at a Ford show in a King Cobra II.
And just by law of averages, if there was so many built, there'd still be quite a few of the rusty assed pigs running today.

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The same that happens to all old cars. Hell….there were over half a million Fox based Mustang built in 1979 and 1980. How many of them do you still see running the streets? Hell…there were almost 700,000 Mustang’s built in 1965 alone. Where did they all go? I’ll tell you where, they rot, they wreck, they die. A lot of things can happen over time. Not everyone has a vacuum sealed garage to keep these cars in so you can poke fun at them 35-years in the future. Compare the age of the Mustang II to the most popular Fox’s. The Mustang II’s have had an additional 9-15-years to disappear over the so coveted ’87-’93 Fox bodies. Admittedly, clean Fox’s are getting hard to find now. In another 9-15 years they’re going to be all but impossible to find….just like Mustang II’s.

Like em, don’t like em….I don’t care. The numbers don’t lie. They made a ton of them and they sold like hot cakes back in the day. The fact still remains that you wouldn’t have a Fox body to drive today, if it wasn’t for the existence of the II.

93project said:

i know thw shelbys were around longer than foxes, im not an idiot. but the truth is, mustang performance all but died with the pinto mustang because of the fuel crisis. the fox mustang, regardless of your apparent dislike of it, is the reason the current mustang is alive. and the current shelby DOES owe its life to the 93 cobra. svt was born with that car, and ALL subsequent specialty mustangs were made because of the interest in the fox cobra

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You may not be an idiot, but you reading comprehension sucks. I didn’t say that the Shelby’s were around longer than the Fox’s. I said they were around long before the Fox’s. As in…the new Shelby was a rehash of the old…not a tribute to the Fox Mustang Cobra.

As for the rest of your post....well, Potatoe = Potaaatoe

The fuel crisis killed all performance vehicles in the '70's, not just the Mustang II's. The II’s were designed with the constraints of the era in mind, not the other way around. Everyone was on the same even shaky ground back then. That still doesn't change the fact that the II was a hit. It was even voted car of the year in 1974. Tell me...what year did the Fox Mustang make that list?

Look…there’s no doubt. The EFI Fox Mustang was a huge influence in turning the aftermarket into the goldmine it is today, there’s no doubt about that. But that had nothing to do with the quality of the car, and very little to do with its popularity at the time. Hell…the Fox Mustang was all but out of production before the aftermarket even really took off. I could probably count on one hand the number of aftermarket head/intake combo’s were being sold for them before the mid-90’s….which was well into the SN95 production years and just as the 5.0L OHV in a Mustang was on its way out the door. Quite frankly…it was the aftermarket that made the Fox Mustang as popular as it is today, not the car itself.

And you’d be mistaken about my “apparent dislike” for the Fox body. I like em just fine. I own one….a nice one as a matter of fact. I even like them better than the Mustang II they replaced. But I’m not ignorant enough to think the II’s were a failure and played no part in the success of where the Mustang is today, nor will I ignore the fact that if it wasn’t for the Mustang II, we wouldn’t have a Fox body to talk about right now. If everyone followed your line of thinking, they would believe that the Fox was the first, last and only Mustang ever build. And that….well, that’s just plain retarded.

88LX5.Oh said:

All Cobra's nowadays originate from SVT. The only actual Shelby Cobras now are the ones that are sent off to Shelby, such as the Super Snake models and the GT350. So, all new Cobras do owe respect to the '93. You sir are correct.

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lol....Ford was using the Cobra as a performance moniker looooong before then. Even during the Fox era. There was a performance oriented "Cobra" in 1979, years before SVT or John Colettie got their hands on them. It happened again in the mid-80's with the SVO division. Saying that Cobra's today owe all that they are to the existence of the '93 SVT Cobra would be like crediting your Father solely for your existence, but leaving out the rest of the lineage by ignoring your Grandfather and his father before him and father before him, etc.

The creation of the SVT division was in response to GM stepping up the game with release of the Corvette powered LT1 F-Body and had more to do with the direction the current performance offerings from Ford have taken today more than anything. If you guys want to thank anyone, thank the engineers at GM for stirring up the Pony Wars again and lighting a fire under Fords tail feathers.