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Jinx

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I know some of y'all game on PCs and Consoles and would appreciate your input.

Before I get flamed...
1.) Yeah I know I can get more bang for my buck with a desktop.
2.) I don't want a desktop.
3.) willing to entertain a higher budget.

Required specs:
i7 6820HK (or better) - must be quadcore
Nvidia 980M (or better) - must have 2GB RAM dedicated min.
8 GB RAM (or better)
250GB SSD (or better)

all else is lipstick on the pig.



@Noobz347 that gaming itch is getting worse.
 

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Everything you have listed there is good stuff. My input into basic requirements would be:

Required specs:
i7 6820HK (or better) - must be quadcore or I5 (makes little difference to games)
Nvidia 980M (or better) - must have 2GB RAM dedicated min.
8 GB RAM (or better) expandable to 16 with at least two DIMM slots
250GB SSD (or better) M.2 slot highly recommended
1440P display min (this can be hard)
 
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Jinx

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I'm still looking to see which is better a i7 6820hk or 6700k. Can't seem to locate a vendor that will build a system with the 6700k (other than Xi, and they are not a gaming oriented builder)

The display I've seen that I like is a UHD 3840x2160 iGZO IPS anti-glare 400-nits unit.

I agree with the 16 GB of RAM. I've seen some deals where they are offering 32GB for the price of 16GB.
 

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I wouldn't spend too much time wringing my fingers over the CPU. 10% or even 15% more performance from an Intel quad core is not going to be measurable in game rates.

Pick the most economical CPU of the bunch (performance vs. buck) and plan on replacing that CPU with best in socket a year or two from now.

It's the VIDEO and chipset (already identified by you) that needs more careful selection. It may even be worth your time and effor to price an Alienware budget system (speaking relatively about Alienware) that can make use of one of their external docking stations.

You need not even purchase the station right now. You can buy it later and install the video card of your choice when you get to that particular bridge. This is only worth doing if you can price one of their pc's to about the same level that you are currently shopping.

With this, there's no heartburn involved with buying a 15" because you can slap it into any video card and monitor that you want.
 
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Didn't you say in the other thread you really didn't want one because you wouldn't use it much.

One guy buys a new Benz. Another guy considers a new truck because he feels "jinxed."

And now Jinx wants a gaming laptop...what is going on around here!!! Next thing Noobz will buy a sex robot.


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DocG said:
Noobz will buy a sex robot.
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What??? Where did you hear that?
 

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What??? Where did you hear that?
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Well when I called they told me you were in line in front of me.

And I would be stuck with the #6 model. Kinda disappointed.

 

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They did offer to bump me to 7 of 9...:just not sure.




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Geek help out! Peace!!!


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Well when I called they told me you were in line in front of me.

And I would be stuck with the #6 model. Kinda disappointed.

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Don't know her personal history and don't care to. Wreckit Ralph.

DocG said:
They did offer to bump me to 7 of 9...:just not sure.




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Hawt but would not dew. Left her husband just because he wanted to watch her with another woman. WTF is that?
 

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You are the worst geek ever. Two of the hottest scifi chicks and you just dismiss them. Ban!!!


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You are the worst geek ever. Two of the hottest scifi chicks and you just dismiss them. Ban!!!


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no no no.... The reason I don't want to know anything about the first one is that it'll just ruin for me. Just nekit plz... no names.

I used to dream about Jerri Ryan until she turned out to be a prude. What a waste of resources.
 

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@Noobz347 don't sweat it man.... @DocG is all about that cleavage...


 
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Sorry... Took me minute to respond. Didn't know where to put the napkin after use. :blush:
 

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Noobz347 said:
I wouldn't spend too much time wringing my fingers over the CPU. 10% or even 15% more performance from an Intel quad core is not going to be measurable in game rates.

Pick the most economical CPU of the bunch (performance vs. buck) and plan on replacing that CPU with best in socket a year or two from now.
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CPU does have some importance to me. I use 3D Studio Max on a daily basis and am setting up an online portfolio to sell 3D Models. It would help to be able to have that power because the rendering is being done by the CPU vs the GPU. This is also the direction that the professional market is headed. Cuda cores are soon to be a thing of the past.
 

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CPU does have some importance to me. I use 3D Studio Max on a daily basis and am setting up an online portfolio to sell 3D Models. It would help to be able to have that power because the rendering is being done by the CPU vs the GPU. This is also the direction that the professional market is headed. Cuda cores are soon to be a thing of the past.
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Ok... I understand the thought process here (the i7 makes sense). You must understand that gaming video cards SUCK at that kind of rendering... Suck.

For that alone (I understand you also have other considerations) I would be looking for a laptop with workstation level graphics.

Another vote for the external dock ready to accept whatever card you put into it.
 
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Yeah, I'm used to a dual 6 core Xeon system with 96GB of RAM, 1TB SSD and the latest Quadro cards at work. I'm spoiled.

I won't need the home laptop for creating animations, but it would be nice for creating models to sell on-line. That should not take much power from the CPU as an animation, but the shorter render speeds would be nice. This whole system should be geared for gaming though, thus the 980M versus the Quadro video processor. Besides, if I ever do need that extra punch, there is the Autodesk/3D Studio render to the cloud capability.
 

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Ok... I understand the thought process here (the i7 makes sense). You must understand that gaming video cards SUCK at that kind of rendering... Suck.
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So....without trying to derail, I'm curious about this statement for what I'm trying to achieve. The main reason I'm looking at building a PC is to work in the Unreal 4 Engine as far as game audio design is concerned. If I can have a rig that kills that and can still allow me to play some games it's a win/win. I would imagine that a gaming card should handle game engine rendering the same way or should I be looking at a different card? Maybe how the renderings are handled post project build are different than that of inside the editor? It's been a long ass time since I've looked at PC components...

For example, for a $2500 workstation rig, they recommend the Nvidia GTX 770

Again, not trying to derail...
 

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XStang302x said:
So....without trying to derail, I'm curious about this statement for what I'm trying to achieve. The main reason I'm looking at building a PC is to work in the Unreal 4 Engine as far as game audio design is concerned. If I can have a rig that kills that **** and can still allow me to play some games it's a win/win. I would imagine that a gaming card should handle game engine rendering the same way or should I be looking at a different card? Maybe how the renderings are handled post project build are different than that of inside the editor? It's been a long ass time since I've looked at PC components...

For example, for a $2500 workstation rig, they recommend the Nvidia GTX 770

Again, not trying to derail...
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Yes, they are. Games are compiled into machine languages are built within an integrated development environment (IDE). The software that generates these images is not the same environment that games and graphics are run in. Games are optimized for the hardware that they are supposed to run.

If you end up getting into that side of things, my recommendation would be along these lines:

Get he video card that play well in the environments that you like (Unreal 4 engine for instance). When you begin to render you will notice the differences. No Open GL etc. Then purchase the workstation card that is most compatible (you will discover through research) with the IDE generation that supports it.

There's a significant difference between generating all of the math and code for these kinds of things and merely rendering them. Once it's actually created then optimization into engine X can begin.

Gaming card have a lot of hardware and software 'tricks' for rendering. Try downloading a free trial for CAD (or any 3D generation IDE) or something of that nature to test.
 
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@XStang302x

I dug this up. Read through a good portion of the first page. The post marked "best answer", really is not. There's better discussion, further down the page.

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2339199/workstation-gpu-gaming-gpu.html
 
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