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rudy herrera

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last night when i was driving my car in the night i turned on my lights and every thing was good for about ten min then my head lights would turn of an on got out to check it out and it was only the head lights the side markers were ok
i got back in the car and turn of the lights and turn them back on and it did the samething after ten min wat could this be ? cant afford to take it to the electric shop just any adviced?
 

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Contacts to your headlight switch might be corroded and/or the switch might be faulty. It's a PITA, but pull the headlight switch out and take a look at the contacts on it and on the connector going into it. Had the same problem on my '89 and ultimately wound up having to fabricate my own plug harness for the thing to make it work properly again.
 

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If you had fog lights on, do the fog light relay retrofit.

The headlight switch has a circuit-breaker in it and the breaker can open the circuit. This is what is likely happening on your car.
 

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SEE Mustang GT Fog Light Fix to fix the problem. The stock wiring isn't up to the job and is overheating. The headlight switch & turn/multifunction switch are affected by Ford's wiring problem. Sometimes it overheats so badly that the plastic shells of the wiring connectors start to melt. This will show you how to add a relay to the fog lights to relieve the overload on the headlight wiring.

I did mine differently, but I had to build my own wiring harness for the fog lights. This is more trouble than it is worth for most folks. I left all the wiring on the stock light switches in place and used the fog light wiring to power the relay coil. The other side of the relay coil is connected to ground. I have an inline fuse that picks up power from the battery side of the starter solenoid. It is connected to the relay contact. The other relay contact is connected to the new wiring harness I made for the fog lights.



The advantage of making your own fog light wiring harness is that you can run 100 watt fog light bulbs. The stock wiring harness will not use 100 watt bulbs without overloading and causing a fire.

Unless you are good at electrical wiring, have the skills and tools (crimp tool, soldering gun, heat gun for the heat shrink tubing, etc.) I recommend that you stick with the Corral method.

Technical explanation of why the wiring and switches overheat.
You asked for it...

I= Current
E= Voltage
R= Resistance
W= Watts

Two 55 watt fog lamps =110 watts. Find the current in the circuit
I= W/E
110 watts/14 volts = 7.85 amps for fog lights alone.
Since the lighting circuit supplies headlights, taillights, and parking lights, etc.

56 watts 2 each GE Part # L3156 corner light 28 watts each
90 watts 2 each GE Part # 9004 headlight 45/65 watts each (low beam)
63 watts 2 each GE Part # L194 parking light 31.5 watts each
56 watts 2 each GE Part # L3157 tail light 28 watts each
265 watts Total

Total other exterior lighting current
I=W/E
265 watts/14 volts = 18.92 amps
18.92 amps other exterior lighting current
+ 7.85 amps fog light current
26.77 amps with all exterior lights and fog lights on.

The 12 gauge power feed wire to the exterior lighting switch is rated at 20 amps
26.77
- 20.00
6.77 amps excess current

7.85 amps used by fog lights
-6.77 amps excess current
1.08 amps to run the fog lights left if you stay within the 20 amp limit of the wire.
With 1.08 amp of current, the fog lights probably won’t produce any useable light.

Added resistance required to reduce fog light current to permissible 20 amp limit
R=E/I
14 volts/6.77 amps = 2.06 ohms
Resistor wattage
W=EI
14 volts x 6.77 amps = 94.78 watts
You would need a 2 ohm, 100 watt resistor.

Light bulb ratings from http://www.roadparts.com/catalog/section30.pdf
Radio shack resistor catalog - no matches , and no combinations that could be used to make a 100 watt, 2 Ohm resistor.
See RadioShack.com

Ohm’s law – in case you have any questions about my formulas - Ohm's Law Calculators
 
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HISSIN50 said:
If you had fog lights on, do the fog light relay retrofit.

The headlight switch has a circuit-breaker in it and the breaker can open the circuit. This is what is likely happening on your car.
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im not realy sure about wat you saying mplease explain sorry
and wat can i do to fix it
 
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Darkwriter77 said:
Contacts to your headlight switch might be corroded and/or the switch might be faulty. It's a PITA, but pull the headlight switch out and take a look at the contacts on it and on the connector going into it. Had the same problem on my '89 and ultimately wound up having to fabricate my own plug harness for the thing to make it work properly again.
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i al ready install new head light connectors today and it still does the same thing
 

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Were your fog lights on when this happened?
If they were, do the fog light relay retrofit. JRichker posted a link to a write-up.

Do you use higher than stock wattage headlight bulbs?

For one reason or another, your headlight switch is probably overloading.
 
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no its a lx it dont have fog lights
 
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