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Sparty92

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I'm installing the Hurst billet short throw shifter in my car this afternoon. Got for a great price from fixthisride.com

$230 shipped.

Wish me luck. Will report back later!
 
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sycd

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Let us know how it goes. I had a hurst in my 07 and loved it. I want to install one in my new 09 and I don't know if I want to go with the billet or regular one.
 

Sparty92

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Ok....here's the install recap:

We did two cars today....my 2007 and my friends 2005. Both of us got the Hurst billet shifter, my car was first to get the install.

We took our time, and very carefully installed the shifter. Took about 2 hours to do my install (we jacked up my car 2x til we found a level spot). You are insane to try this install yourself. Two people makes it very easy.

The trouble spots were getting the shifter out of/into the tunnel opening. After some finagling, it goes right in/out. The other trouble spot is re-attaching the dust boot on the shifter.

SUPER TIP#1: Remove the ENTIRE CONSOLE...to do a shifter install. It takes all of 5 minutes to remove, and you would eliminate the chance of scratching your console, and the re-install of the dust boot is 100% easier and faster.

When the time came to install the white cue ball, I notice a "fingernail" scratch near the "R". It's still white, but you can see it. I'm gonna try to get that replaced, but it's not a HUGE deal.

We did NOT install the included shift stop screws that came with this kit. The S197 trans has them built-in (or so we've read)...and we deemed them worthless and just another part to work loose or deal with.

We took the car for a spin to test it out...here are my thoughts:

1. There is ZERO noise from the shifter/boot area. There is no buzz, no rattle, NOTHING. Put it in gear, and it sits there, waiting for you to move it again. The shifter is SILENT when in gear. No vibration, no movement at all. I can't imagine why the MGW guys get all excited about the dynamat that comes with their kit, but seriously...this shifter has zero sound. It's as quiet as stock (which is silent, LOL).

2. The shifter has a distinct "click" sound as you engage each gear. Some people have said, "It makes a loud clunk when I shift!" Shut up. It makes a click, of positive engagement. It may sound like a "clunk," but more like a "thunk." The difference being, no metallic crazy sounds. It goes into gear, and that's it. Simple.

3. The throw is VERY short. From neutral to 1st gear, travel is maybe 1.5 inches, if that. Gears, 1, 3 and 5 all look like they're in neutral on a stock shifter car. Gears 2 and 4 look like they are in gear, as the shifter leans back a bit. Total throw distance from say, 1-2...looks to be no more than 4 inches total. Most likely less, haven't measured it.

Learning to shift faster will take some practice. There is the sensation of distinct gates (going from 2-3, example). While it's not hard to move the shifter, it's more of a deliberate action, and the solid feel of the whole experience is greatly different than a stock shifter set-up.

The time to install it on my buddy's car was 1 hour, tops. His final results were the same as mine.

Not sure if the "standard" Hurst shifter feels this awesome, but I can say the billet version is very good. The price shipped was only $230, which is a very good price for this piece.

No pics of the install or parts....sorry...but they are covered everywhere online.

I would totally recommend this shifter if you want a short, very positive feeling shift. Combined with the stellar classic good looks, you can't go wrong.

 

TBrad

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Strange but...

I had the same scratch on my white shifter ball.

I wonder what the deal is with that?
 

Sparty92

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I just emailed customer service about the scratch on the white ball. We'll see if they send me a replacement one or not.

I've also noticed (eating some crow here)...that there's a very slight buzz/rattle that occurs when accelerating (sometimes) into higher RPM....like, 3K+. I'm pretty sure it's in the area of the stick, itself. Everything seems tight, loc-tite on the stick bolts, etc. Some have said it could be the threads inside the shifter ball.

I will have to do more extensive testing. Aside from that, it works well.
 

bynumj

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Sparty92 said:
I just emailed customer service about the scratch on the white ball. We'll see if they send me a replacement one or not.

I've also noticed (eating some crow here)...that there's a very slight buzz/rattle that occurs when accelerating (sometimes) into higher RPM....like, 3K+. I'm pretty sure it's in the area of the stick, itself. Everything seems tight, loc-tite on the stick bolts, etc. Some have said it could be the threads inside the shifter ball.

I will have to do more extensive testing. Aside from that, it works well.
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I have had my Hurst shifter for just over year. I am on my third one right now. The first shifter was defective, the second shifter rattled like a can of change. Hurst sent me a replacement (third one) and it has a slight rattle but not as bad as the second one. I have not found a solution for it yet. I tried oiling the shifter bearing and had good results for an hour but have not found a lasting solution. I like the shifter performance but I will need to find a solution to the rattle if it is going to stay in the car. You think with all the complaints about the Hurst shifter rattle, someone would make a kit to fix the problem.
 

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We recently removed a Hurst billet from my bud's '05 turbo car and switched to MGW. At about 500 rwhp he couldn't hit 3rd very well at high rpm's. The MGW solved that problem. The Hurst did look to be built very well unlike the regular Hurst which uses the OEM stamped steel base. The torsion mounts on the MGW are what I think really help the shifts in the higher HP applications.
 

NastyStang113

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anthony05gt said:
We recently removed a Hurst billet from my bud's '05 turbo car and switched to MGW. At about 500 rwhp he couldn't hit 3rd very well at high rpm's. The MGW solved that problem. The Hurst did look to be built very well unlike the regular Hurst which uses the OEM stamped steel base. The torsion mounts on the MGW are what I think really help the shifts in the higher HP applications.
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I agree. I still bought a K-Member Brace with Torque Limiters though. It really helps with power shifting.
 
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STANGmole

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bynumj said:
You think with all the complaints about the Hurst shifter rattle, someone would make a kit to fix the problem.
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I'm pretty sure MGW does
 
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bynumj said:
I have had my Hurst shifter for just over year. I am on my third one right now. The first shifter was defective, the second shifter rattled like a can of change. Hurst sent me a replacement (third one) and it has a slight rattle but not as bad as the second one. I have not found a solution for it yet. I tried oiling the shifter bearing and had good results for an hour but have not found a lasting solution. I like the shifter performance but I will need to find a solution to the rattle if it is going to stay in the car. You think with all the complaints about the Hurst shifter rattle, someone would make a kit to fix the problem.
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If lube worked you might try packing it with grease, since that will have more "staying" power than a liquid lubricant. And out of curiosity, what about the first shifter was defective?
Dan
 

NastyStang113

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STANGmole said:
I'm pretty sure MGW does
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This is the truth.
 

bynumj

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o0Dan0o said:
If lube worked you might try packing it with grease, since that will have more "staying" power than a liquid lubricant. And out of curiosity, what about the first shifter was defective?
Dan
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There was a problem with corrosion on the finish; something must have contaminated it during the manufacturing process.
 
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