Motive gears just as good as FRPP?

supastang03 · Jan 22, 2006

im very skeptical about this and would probably just pay the difference to go with the ford gears, but just wanted to see what u guys thought of this...

"Motive Performance Plus gears are made with an extra strong race quality alloy. We recommend Motive Performance Plus gears over FRPP, as they are just as strong and less expensive. Motive uses these gears in high horsepower racecars with outstanding results. They also do NOT have a reputation such as Richmond for "gear whine". "

direct quote from mustangtuning.com and lethalperformance.com

01Steeda · Jan 22, 2006

LOL.. they have the worst Rep for Gear Whine!!

Kilgore Trout · Jan 22, 2006

Any gear will whine if installed improperly. However, FRPP gears are easier to install because you can take advantage of a measurement technique using MHD (master housing dimension) which alleviates the need for a special measuring tool to properly align the gears. This MHD method is used on the assembly line and can only be done with Ford gears. However, FRPP does not make a 3.90 so if that is the ratio you want you will not be able to do FRPP anyway.

supastang03 · Jan 22, 2006

haha i figured, if they had to say something about NOT having a rep. for it, they had to have some sort of a rep for it and be trying to clear it up

billyfe390 · Jan 22, 2006

01Steeda said:
LOL.. they have the worst Rep for Gear Whine!!

Your a moron.

Nothing wrong with motives as long as the installer is competent.

BTW motive is making FRPP gears now.

helty · Jan 22, 2006

billyfe390 said:
Your a moron.

Nothing wrong with motives as long as the installer is competent.

BTW motive is making FRPP gears now.

QFT. (not the moron part ) Its all in the installation. FRPPs are easier to install as Kilgore stated, but if you dont install them right, they will whine as well.

do you have any proof of this? care to elaborate? not calling BS, just curious and intruiged. if true, maybe (doubts it) FRPP gears would go down in price.

01Steeda · Jan 22, 2006

All I am saying is I have seen alot of cars with Motive gears, all done by different installers and they all whine.

Why the names man... did I strike a nerve?

Kilgore Trout · Jan 22, 2006

I have never heard that any type of gear is more prone to whine than any other...

I am sure they are all good

supastang03 · Jan 22, 2006

didnt mean to start an argument guys...

so if im getting them installed at a local shop, should i just go with motive gears then...since i wont have to worry about the difficulty of installation..?

btw im going 3.73s

Kilgore Trout · Jan 22, 2006

I think the FRPP gears would be the best choice regardless. Always best to go with FRPP

supastang03 · Jan 22, 2006

Kilgore Trout said:
I think the FRPP gears would be the best choice regardless. Always best to go with FRPP

very true, and the price diff. isnt that significant...thanks for your help!

Stangdriver1119 · Jan 22, 2006

can't go wrong with FRPP stuff

SaleenGT2001 · Jan 22, 2006

i'm running 3.90 motive gears. no whine at all. just get someone who knows what they are doing to set them up!

propellerhead · Jan 22, 2006

If Motive gears are really that bad, they won't be in the gear business this long. I'm siding with the "It's in the installation" theory.

LI98GTStang · Jan 22, 2006

Talk to the guy installing the gears and see what he says first before ordering. Since you are getting 3:73s, available in both motive and FRPP, I would lean towards the FRPP since the install would be easier for the installer as said above. If you wanted 3:90s, then motive is the only choice. BTW, it's the gear I'm leaning towards, although my local shop bundles in gears and installation for a hella deal but only uses FRPP, so it may be 3:73s for me afterall.

stangGT97 · Jan 22, 2006

01Steeda said:
LOL.. they have the worst Rep for Gear Whine!!

I'm pretty sure you must be thinking of Richmond gears... and even at that, most gears will not whine if set up correctly. Its been said over and over again... you could make FRPP gears whine too if you have a moron installing them

Nick03gt · Jan 22, 2006

i have motive 4.10s, i had them installed at my ford dealership, (they have a mechanic that only does performance parts, mustangs, and svt stuff), they do NOT whine at all

my friend has richmond 3.73s installed by another gear shop that i am not familiar with and they whine quite badly, richmonds are hands down the strongest gear but whine

between motive and ffrp its all in the install

elite130 · Jan 23, 2006

They are the exact same, FRPP is made by Motive. I assume this because I bought my brother some FRPP gears (7.5" 3.73's) for Christmas. I got them and opened up the box just to take a look at them. Well, to my surprise, the install sheet had Motive Gears written all over it. The outside of the box had a FRPP sticker and stamp on it. Could this be for only 7.5" gears, or is it for all FRPP gears?

Anyways, FRPP gears are the best to buy, little or no whining.

supastang03 · Jan 23, 2006

nick...how much was the installation from the ford dealership...and did u need to buy anything else other than the gears (installation kit, bearing kit, etc..)?

thomas91169 · Jan 23, 2006

supastang03 said:
nick...how much was the installation from the ford dealership...and did u need to buy anything else other than the gears (installation kit, bearing kit, etc..)?

i too would like to know. i hate the stealership, but so far from word of mouth, nobody around me knows where a good shop to get gears installed are(and basically everyone around me runs stock gears and dont mod their cars). if ford does it right the first time, id rather spend the extra money for peace of mind.

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