Mustang5l5's Progress Thread - Just cruising now

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Dude, I hope this doesn’t rub you wrong, but I still feel like your front wheels sit toward the rear of the wheel wells... Is it possible your K member is pushed backward, and that may have something to do with the brace not fitting?
I actually suspect you may be right. Between the brace not fitting and some crude measurements I took, I think the drivers side wheel is more rearward.

More reason why I'm eager to pull it apart and check it out further and replace the k member.
 
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Mass air swap done. Fired it up and no issues at all. Cranked right over and settled down to a stable idle.


Pulled the car out to flip it around again in the garage. Did a quick walk around. Unfortunately the iPhone picks up all the high frequency engine noise and not the exhaust note

View: https://youtu.be/4wVIzMzStR0


Played around a bit with theride height. I think the rear needs to drop a bit. Car is toed out so I need to adjust that and align it again.

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Going to take a little break. Got some house projects to tackle. After that....time to put this in

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Car looks great. I love the black. It reminds me of my first 86. I had it repainted all black and got rid of the grey stripes and moldings. Had the stripe in taillight pained black too. Love watching your progress. Hope you get the k-member issue straightened out.
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Slow week now. Put the newly cig-burn free Recaro back in. Thanks for telling me to fix that @Noobz347

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Next up...panhard bar install. Gonna take a little break first. Week or two.
 
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But taking crude reference points it does appear one wheel is set back slightly more than the other. Of course i'm also using a tape measure to figure this out referencing the rear axle, which could also be off slightly as well.
My eyeball-measurement says something does look a bit off on the driver's side front, but that could just be the picture.

2nd, measuring from the axle is no good until you verify that it's straight. Your rear axle is likely off, because foxes are well-known to have imperfect body-frame alignment. The difficulty is finding the baseline reference to measure from. After "stringing" my own car, I can tell you that finding good points of reference on the car to determine a center-line is really tough. I ended up using some best guess points by going down the frame rails with a plum-bob, marking points along the floor, drawing lines representing the frame rails on the floor, and then using a right-angle rule to draw a perpendicular line on the floor. I taped a 6' straight rule to that and used it to measure by. I had to find spots on the rear axle housing that I could be consistent with. I'd drop the plumb bob from them, and measure back to them. Then I adjusted my control arms until they were as close as I could get them. You'd want to do the same from points on the k-member & it's bolting points to figure out what is really off.

In case your eyes have already glazed over, I've attached the pdf reference that I kinda followed, while substituting my own methods for what I had available and how the fox chassis is (crankshaft is not centered). It amounts to finding the center line, taping a perpendicular straight rule and then measuring to various points from that. It's the route I'd recommend for your measurements, too.

Frankly, it felt like a lot of guess work. It didn't really feel perfectly satisfying, but I still can't think of a better way to ensure the rear end was aligned correctly. Maybe an alignment machine would be better, but I don't know too many alignment shops I'd trust to start jacking around on my control arms, lol. Perhaps in your case, just knowing the rear is properly aligned is good enough, but then, is it centered? I thought I posted about it and took pictures, but I'm not seeing it...
 

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CarMichael Angelo

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I'm curious ( primarily for my own reasons with my car).
One one hand, I look in and see what looks like a restoration one time, and the next time I see the typical high end braking and suspension upgrades, and then there's the " track only" stuff like the k member/strut tower braces, and pan hard/torque arm stuff..

What is you plan for this car?
 

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I'm curious ( primarily for my own reasons with my car).
One one hand, I look in and see what looks like a restoration one time, and the next time I see the typical high end braking and suspension upgrades, and then there's the " track only" stuff like the k member/strut tower braces, and pan hard/torque arm stuff..

What is you plan for this car?
Driveable Show car with a killer 60 foot and turnability :D
 
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I'm curious ( primarily for my own reasons with my car).
One one hand, I look in and see what looks like a restoration one time, and the next time I see the typical high end braking and suspension upgrades, and then there's the " track only" stuff like the k member/strut tower braces, and pan hard/torque arm stuff..

What is you plan for this car?
Just overall bad ass street car.

Gotta remember that this car IS the actual car I drove in HS and college. I was too busy trying to just afford the car to really do much too it. Instead I read forums like this drooling over guys dropping big bucks on nice mods and doing stuff I only dreamed about. I had a k&n and flows and that's about it. Thinks like Aluminum cylinder head or anything from maximum motorsports were just a dream at that point.

Now, I can finally have the means to do the stuff I wish i could have done 20 years ago....so I'm doing some of it. Trying to strike a nice balance of resto, driver, race and show type mods. Since I did daily drive the car as a teen, it's not perfect. I've also been spending time undoing some mistakes and hacks. Lesson learned.

I've alluded to in a few posts that I do have an end game with this car. K member and motor work and I'm wrapping up. Not sure what I'll do next as it may not even be a fox body or even a mustang. But this car will sit in the garage and get driven on my favorite route every Sat/Sun AM and I will smile the entire time I'm doing it....even if that Panhard bar never really gets fully tested out.
 
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My eyeball-measurement says something does look a bit off on the driver's side front, but that could just be the picture.

2nd, measuring from the axle is no good until you verify that it's straight. Your rear axle is likely off, because foxes are well-known to have imperfect body-frame alignment. The difficulty is finding the baseline reference to measure from. After "stringing" my own car, I can tell you that finding good points of reference on the car to determine a center-line is really tough. I ended up using some best guess points by going down the frame rails with a plum-bob, marking points along the floor, drawing lines representing the frame rails on the floor, and then using a right-angle rule to draw a perpendicular line on the floor. I taped a 6' straight rule to that and used it to measure by. I had to find spots on the rear axle housing that I could be consistent with. I'd drop the plumb bob from them, and measure back to them. Then I adjusted my control arms until they were as close as I could get them. You'd want to do the same from points on the k-member & it's bolting points to figure out what is really off.

In case your eyes have already glazed over, I've attached the pdf reference that I kinda followed, while substituting my own methods for what I had available and how the fox chassis is (crankshaft is not centered). It amounts to finding the center line, taping a perpendicular straight rule and then measuring to various points from that. It's the route I'd recommend for your measurements, too.

Frankly, it felt like a lot of guess work. It didn't really feel perfectly satisfying, but I still can't think of a better way to ensure the rear end was aligned correctly. Maybe an alignment machine would be better, but I don't know too many alignment shops I'd trust to start jacking around on my control arms, lol. Perhaps in your case, just knowing the rear is properly aligned is good enough, but then, is it centered? I thought I posted about it and took pictures, but I'm not seeing it...
I plan to reply to this, because you took the time to write it, but it will need to be from a PC and I'm currently in bed dealing with a nasty stomach bug
 
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So...what would you say if I said I might try swapping the MoMo wheel out for this?

It's absolutely mint and I would put a decal over the cat logo like a running pony emblem like in the newer cars.

I like the Momo...but I actually might like this more.

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The smiley face? It is more period correct with your seats and car but we're dudes and we hate periods... You're the one who has to stare at it every time you drive, which do YOU prefer?
 

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So...what would you say if I said I might try swapping the MoMo wheel out for this?

It's absolutely mint and I would put a decal over the cat logo like a running pony emblem like in the newer cars.

I like the Momo...but I actually might like this more.

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I’m starting to want to do the steering wheel swap. I really like the sparco for racing steering wheel but also like this momo. What all does it take for this to work. I have a 91 so no tilt which I don’t really care about. Just not sure if that’s some thing that needed or not.
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This steering wheel change really does not surprise me Mike. What did surprise me was when you put a non Ford wheel in the car awhile back. I bet at some point you can find a Ford center and sell that one for big money! I recently learned the Ford version was also on high end Tempo or escorts or some other car like that.
 

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This steering wheel change really does not surprise me Mike. What did surprise me was when you put a non Ford wheel in the car awhile back. I bet at some point you can find a Ford center and sell that one for big money! I recently learned the Ford version was also on high end Tempo or escorts or some other car like that.
Agreed. I'm fairly certain I've seen the center sections for sale by themselves on eBay before.
 
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I actually have one.

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However for some reason the Ford emblem is tilted in the pad. Not sure I can correct it yet.
 
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Actually those center sections come out fairly easily. Glad I took the gamble when I bought this horn pad on eBay

Ford center comes out too fairly easily. Quick clean and maybe a paint on the center and back together it goes

I may fabricate an annodixe a custom center out of AL down the road

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Ok, I come in here to see sparkle shinies and talk about how sometimes really good mods suck and all I see are smiley faces. :oops:

...and they're all upside down ...and staring :hide: