not a mustang- but interesting stuff...

But if you look at the costs of trucks over the past 50 years. The new trucks arent out of line on the prices. So if they basicaly are the same price, why not have all that crap. Yes for myself, i dont care about all that stuff. I would be happy with a truck with vinal floors, vinal seats, and jsut power windows and a cd player. Heck i dont even want an automatic.


65shelby, yes i know they had a vw rabit looking trucks out, but i wouldnt consider that a work truck. Im talking a 250-550 truck taht can actualy haul stuff and workers. As to your last remark, dont go blaming the manufactures. They are in it for hte money, and the money comes from the consumer. It is the consumer that is buying thoes YUPPIE rigs. It is also the consumer that is waisting the fuel on rigs like that. Heck i will do the same, when i have a wife i am going to put her in the biggest rig i can get. I want her to be safe, and if that means paying 15 mpg for a surburban that is fine.
Finaly back to the original truck taht started this post, yeah i know that truck is way over the top, but since when did you see a first concept rig come out on the road

I find it really lame when a bunch of guys with high performance cars and big towing trucks complain about gas mileage.

Sell your car and live in a little box in the middle of the city if it's a big deal to you. Or buy some piece of crap little pedal car tin can...

... and stay in the right lane out of my way.

blue66tang said:

It is the consumer that is buying thoes YUPPIE rigs. It is also the consumer that is waisting the fuel on rigs like that. Heck i will do the same, when i have a wife i am going to put her in the biggest rig i can get. I want her to be safe, and if that means paying 15 mpg for a surburban that is fine.

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I wasnt blaming the manufacturers for making SUVs; I was blaming them on the whole for not making ANY of the cars efficient. You ever see the mileage a 4-cyl Rav4 or Cobalt gets? 24 tops. Gas costs more and many passenger vehicles get the same mileage they did 30 years ago.

I'll also blame consumers for having attitudes like yours and/or being general suckers that buy whatever is advertised, not to mention thinking size is all that makes a safe car. Don't take it as a personal attack, we can just agree to disagree.

Hack.... well put. I can't beleive a bunch of guys driving 40 year old carbureted, cars are going to critique big trucks, the technology is spectacular.
By the way, Ford was the first with a hybrid SUV, the Escape
and if you are going to talk about market savvy. they build them because people buy them.
Ford world wide has a wide variety of different products for different market, the European market they have lots of econo diesels. And if you are going to question what the lay off opinions are going to be. If a manufacturing company does not continue with research and development to bring out new and better products they will be in worse shape next year.
FORD.... for now, for ever

gtss said:

Hack.... well put. I can't beleive a bunch of guys driving 40 year old carbureted, cars are going to critique big trucks, the technology is spectacular.
By the way, Ford was the first with a hybrid SUV, the Escape
and if you are going to talk about market savvy. they build them because people buy them.
Ford world wide has a wide variety of different products for different market, the European market they have lots of econo diesels. And if you are going to question what the lay off opinions are going to be. If a manufacturing company does not continue with research and development to bring out new and better products they will be in worse shape next year.
FORD.... for now, for ever

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Well said.

As far as me buying a bigger rig, you cant tell me that a little VW rabbit is going to be safer than a Suburban, or somehting in the like.

If a suburban t-bones a rabit, I;d rather be in the suburban. If either car blows out a front tire and hits the shoulder, I'd rather be in the rabit. If either cars runs into a telephone pole, I'd rather be in the rabit. If either car is forced to come to a sudden stop, or swerve around a piece of road debree, or both, I'd rather be in the rabit.

So I can say to you with a very straight face the rabit is safer.

double post by Stangnet - it wasn't me...

Based on what George W said this week, we'll all be running on ethanol in 10 years anyway.

Then we'll see all the illegal stills in the back yard...

Getting back to the point about big trucks, I thought the consumer was turning it's back on them, due to the gas prices you have.

Yeah, rght after that manned mission to mars he proposed in the sotu a few years ago.

limey66 said:

Getting back to the point about big trucks, I thought the consumer was turning it's back on them, due to the gas prices you have.

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People are, to a point. That point is when the dealers and manufacturers offer HUGE incentives ($7,000 - $10,000 off MSRP) to get the trucks off the lot. Then you see a bunch of fullsize trucks with temp tags driving around

There are trucks like the one that started this thread, and there are trucks that are intended to be trucks. Two very different things.

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I wasnt blaming the manufacturers for making SUVs; I was blaming them on the whole for not making ANY of the cars efficient. You ever see the mileage a 4-cyl Rav4 or Cobalt gets? 24 tops. Gas costs more and many passenger vehicles get the same mileage they did 30 years ago.

I'll also blame consumers for having attitudes like yours and/or being general suckers that buy whatever is advertised, not to mention thinking size is all that makes a safe car. Don't take it as a personal attack, we can just agree to disagree.

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I'm sure you understand this already, but wind resistance has a lot to do with fuel economy on the highway. It takes a certain amount of horsepower to push a larger, taller vehicle through the air at 70+ mph. A small, efficient engine doesn't help a ton. There's only so much energy in a gallon of gasoline, also remember that E85 which many people are using has less energy. People running E85 will get poorer fuel economy.

Also, the manufacturers are responding to what people buy. The cars now a days are much faster than any time in the past. Almost no one is willing to buy a stripped down underpowered car any more. I do agree with you that the manufacturers prefer to sell cars that are a little more expensive. It's like going out to eat, the restaurant wants to give huge portions so they can charge more. You do have a legitimate complaint there.

I recently towed a 1970 Mustang shell 600 miles with my '92 F150 (302 engine). I got 14 miles per gallon on the way out to get the vehicle, and 14 mpg on the way back with the tow dolly and Mustang in tow. I'm sure my fuel economy was slightly different, but the change was less than 1 mpg. Point being, air resistance was the biggest force to overcome and adding some weight to the back of my pickup didn't make much difference.

My original post wasn't so much about fuel economy as it was the retardedness of the concept truck.