Pipe dream wish list

LILCBRA · Feb 27, 2020

So I've always wanted to build a 351W based 427 stroker with Cleveland style heads for my Cobra II - more just for the fact that I can say I have a 427 Cobra than for the power levels that can be achieved. But with the recent thread about a Windsor vs a stroked Windsor (ttps://www.stangnet.com/mustang-forums/threads/357w-would-you-do-it-again.913823/page-2#post-9221788), I got to thinking a little deeper on the 427 Windsor concept. The II doesn't lend itself to many engines that are much bigger than a 302, but the Fox Mustang has a TON of aftermarket support. So why not install the 427 in a Fox, specifically my vert? The idea I've always had would be to make it a 427 Clevor with Cleveland style heads. The more I thought about it the more I wanted to research the possibilities, so I went to Summit's website and Google and did some searching. Here's what I come up with as a pipe smoking wish list.

Ford Racing aluminum block 427W short block: https://www.summitracing.com/parts/fms-m-6009-427a

Trick Flow Cleveland style heads: https://www.summitracing.com/parts/tfs-51616204-c00

Trick Flow Clevor EFI intake: https://www.summitracing.com/parts/tfs-51600114

Cleveland swap headers: https://www.summitracing.com/parts/hed-85620

Stroker clearanced oil pan: https://www.summitracing.com/parts/mor-20520/make/ford

At almost $12k just for all of that, it's a pipe dream but it's definitely doable! Anyone else have a pipe dream wish list?

Olivethefet · Feb 27, 2020

That aluminum block is cool and I know its a pipe dream, but if the build is just to have a 427 is there not a cheaper option that doesn't discount the dream? Nearly 8K for the block!!

srtthis · Feb 27, 2020

mines to pull the motor out of my LX and put it into a factory five daytona coupe... power glide and all...

LILCBRA · Feb 28, 2020

Olivethefet said:
That aluminum block is cool and I know its a pipe dream, but if the build is just to have a 427 is there not a cheaper option that doesn't discount the dream? Nearly 8K for the block!!

There might be and I'm sure that there is, but I saw the aluminum block and thought that would be awesome! So I figured since it's all a pipe dream anyway I may as well add it to the list. (edit: suggested on the same page, a cast iron block 427w short block - https://www.summitracing.com/parts/fms-m-6009-427f?rrec=true)

Another thing I thought of would be a transmission upgrade if all of that were to go down. The T5 would probably be ok for a little bit, but I'd most likely have to upgrade to a TKO or something in fairly short order, so may as well add a new transmission to the list....

CarMichael Angelo · Feb 28, 2020

LILCBRA said:
So I've always wanted to build a 351W based 427 stroker with Cleveland style heads for my Cobra II - more just for the fact that I can say I have a 427 Cobra than for the power levels that can be achieved. But with the recent thread about a Windsor vs a stroked Windsor (ttps://www.stangnet.com/mustang-forums/threads/357w-would-you-do-it-again.913823/page-2#post-9221788), I got to thinking a little deeper on the 427 Windsor concept. The II doesn't lend itself to many engines that are much bigger than a 302, but the Fox Mustang has a TON of aftermarket support. So why not install the 427 in a Fox, specifically my vert? The idea I've always had would be to make it a 427 Clevor with Cleveland style heads. The more I thought about it the more I wanted to research the possibilities, so I went to Summit's website and Google and did some searching. Here's what I come up with as a pipe smoking wish list.

Ford Racing aluminum block 427W short block: https://www.summitracing.com/parts/fms-m-6009-427a

Trick Flow Cleveland style heads: https://www.summitracing.com/parts/tfs-51616204-c00

Trick Flow Clevor EFI intake: https://www.summitracing.com/parts/tfs-51600114

Cleveland swap headers: https://www.summitracing.com/parts/hed-85620

Stroker clearanced oil pan: https://www.summitracing.com/parts/mor-20520/make/ford

At almost $12k just for all of that, it's a pipe dream but it's definitely doable! Anyone else have a pipe dream wish list?

I dreamed of having a cheaper alternative to the old engine that was in my car that would require less fabrication, would be easy to modify, and i could just drop it in and go...

It was definitely a pipe dream.

LILCBRA · Feb 28, 2020

Yours is definitely the road less traveled.... if it's even been attempted before!!

But on the flip side, a bunch of fabrication almost always equates to more money spent, so I'll bet that was a consideration. But I'm sure that once yours is up and running it'll be a little easier on the wallet to maintain. Besides, who else is gonna have one like yours? I'm gonna go out on a limb and say a grand total of no one - and sometimes there's no price tag on that.....

LILCBRA · Feb 28, 2020

That and you're making your pipe dream a reality!

Adieu · Feb 28, 2020

Screw that puny OE-style manifold.

If you're gonna pipe dream, let's go all-out and put a manifold on that sumbitch that'll let a Cleveland-headed Windsor Scream above 6000rpm the way such a bastard should!

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/tfs-51600112 Get that, it has the bosses for your injectors, then put an elbow on it for your throttle body and UNLEASH that mother once it's wound the hell up.

(I'm in a weird mood today.)

LILCBRA · Feb 28, 2020

I could go for that too!!

deathb4dismount · Feb 28, 2020

Isn't there a member here who has a 427 in a fox? I think a white aero GT.

srtthis · Feb 28, 2020

deathb4dismount said:
Isn't there a member here who has a 427 in a fox? I think a white aero GT.

bunch of us with 400+ inch motors in here...

General karthief · Feb 28, 2020

I got 444 ci and a turbo in the dump truck.
Can I join the 'club'? It didn't come with jack stands though

2Blue2 · Feb 28, 2020

427 is a magic number but, As long as were dreaming/ bench racing windsors ...
460ci windsor in a dart block with 220cc cnc AFR comp heads
oh buddy!

General karthief said:
I got 444 ci and a turbo in the dump truck.

If you put the weight in the right place will it wheelie?

srtthis · Feb 28, 2020

2Blue2 said:
427 is a magic number but, As long as were dreaming/ bench racing windsors ...
460ci windsor in a dart block with 220cc cnc AFR comp heads
oh buddy!

If you put the weight in the right place will it wheelie?

ill tell you now a 220 head is no where near big enough for a 460" motor... like not even in the right ball park

2Blue2 · Feb 28, 2020

srtthis said:
no where near big enough for a 460" motor..

Whats bigger?

srtthis · Feb 28, 2020

245 highport
250 highport
255 highport
265 highport
C3
ford SC1
edelbrock SC1
D3
neal 200
neal 201
neal 202
blue thunder 3.6
blue number 4.3
mbe
visner hemi
visner SC1
ultra pro 9*

those are off the top of my head the heads big enough to support a 460" SBF

LILCBRA · Feb 28, 2020

I saw an article or something on those hemi heads for SBF - I thought those would be bad ass! I'd like to see someone's ride with a set of them....

srtthis · Feb 28, 2020

LILCBRA said:
I saw an article or something on those hemi heads for SBF - I thought those would be bad ass! I'd like to see someone's ride with a set of them....

the visner hemi or the hammer head hemi? the visners are proven... ive seen nothing amazing out of a hammer head yet

LILCBRA · Feb 28, 2020

I don't remember who produced the heads in the article I saw, it was a while ago when I ran across it. But since they were brought up here I was just on YouTube and found one SBF with hemi heads on a dyno. It just happens to be a 427 stroker too....

View: https://youtu.be/N3pvcVmJi0w

LILCBRA · Feb 28, 2020

Speaking of Hammerhead hemi heads....

View: https://youtu.be/HyP_jhv_I-0

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