porsche 944 likeness/engine

andrw · Jan 17, 2004

i was wandering around a local junkyard and there happened to be a 93 LX sitting next to an 88 porsche 944. (i've always loved them) and i realized how stunningly similiar they really are. in everything, dimensions, interior, etc.

now my question. how much work do you think it would take transplant a 3.0 inline 4 from a porsche 944 into one of our mustangs?

http://edmunds.com/used/1990/porsch...?tid=edmunds.u.prices.leftsidenav..6.Porsche*

208 hp

size of engine compartment is identical from my rough measurements, and this guy is practically giving the engine away. not to mention, he claims the 944s have the same trans as the 5.0 mustangs. i personally would take that with a grain of salt because hes been wrong about stuff before.

anyway, just a thought, if not engine, there are alot of other nifty little things in these cars.

Dr_EluSivE · Jan 17, 2004

a better question would be..... what would it take to put a ford turbo motor in the porsche. My friend has a 944 and its pretty slow. It IS faster than an N/A 2.3 but i out ran him in my moms tarurus (duratec 3.0) once. The 944 Turbos are quick but the N/A ones arent. They do handle much nicer than the stang though.

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Cougar · Jan 17, 2004

You don't want to pay for parts, or try to work on a 944 engine.

andrw · Jan 17, 2004

really? 208 hp you would think would move. its only like 200 lbs heavier than the mustang.

andrw · Jan 17, 2004

Cougar said:
You don't want to pay for parts, or try to work on a 944 engine.

the parts problem wouldnt be much of one, these are like $1500 cars and a dime a dozen at the junkyards.

round here anyway.

but really this was more of a hypothetical question then an actual gonna-do

i4power · Jan 17, 2004

andrw said:
really? 208 hp you would think would move. its only like 200 lbs heavier than the mustang.

If a Taurus can outrun one, then I wouldn't recommend getting it. The turbo one would be much better, however. More potential.

andrw · Jan 17, 2004

i4power said:
If a Taurus can outrun one, then I wouldn't recommend getting it. The turbo one would be much better, however. More potential.

you know, im thinking maybe that stat IS for the turbo one. my mistake.

andrw · Jan 17, 2004

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33592&item=2454364074

now im thinking about that suspension swapping

Paul C. · Jan 17, 2004

I'd rather have a Merkur XR4Ti! 2.3t Ford power!!

Bendutro · Jan 17, 2004

Trust me...

You don't wanna dick around with the Stuttgart water cooled engines, much less fabricate engine mounts, bellhousing adapter, input shaft/flywheel issues etc. My last car was a Porsche 944 Turbo (951 if you're a Porsche nerd like me) and it was also the reason I switched to Turbo Fords. The NA Ford 2.3 is a dog unless you're cramming air in it with a turbo or spraying nitrous in it but it is
#1 Non-interference. Timing belt breaks or slips, no big whoop, just time it and drive away. The 951 is ALL aluminum and interference, be prepared for a $1500 bill if the belt slips a tooth or two. Our Anvils..er...blocks are tougher than $hit, and don't need balance shafts in them with the beefy counterweights on the crank.

#2 EASY to work on. Swapping the turbo on the 951 took me forever and the convoluted intake/exhaust plumbing was a nightmare. Clutch jobs take 23 hrs. for a seasoned mechanic to perform according to the shop manual. Timing belt/water pump jobs are 10 hrs or $600 plus parts and have to be done every 40-60k miles. More frequently if you race.

#3 Cheap parts are plentiful, the Porsche items can be located, but are always more expensive.

When I get another Porsche ("Poor-shaa") it will be a '69 911 S with Webers and a sunroof. No reason to envy their engines, our tractor engines work really well.

andrw · Jan 17, 2004

thoughts on the 944 swaybar?

Bendutro · Jan 17, 2004

Sure, but you have an LX 'stang. Best Mods for suspension and handling are going to be Springs and shocks and grab the swaybar off a thunderbird. Subframe connectors are another help.

nomuffler · Jan 17, 2004

944 is a piece of crap, I think they sold them as Volzwagons in europe. If you're gonna get a porsche engine get a 928 engine. 4.0 V8.

Bendutro · Jan 17, 2004

Same thing nomuffler, the 4s are simply one bank of the 928 engines. They were not badged as VW in Europe but they did roll out of the Audi plant. They are VERY capable cars, I had my 951 over 168mph and it was rock solid and still pulling. The 0-60 and 1/4 mile times for the 944 turbo and 928 are identical.
Saying one is better than another is simply ignorant.

Anlushac11 · Jan 18, 2004

I remember comparisions between the early TRX suspension Mustangs(Cobra I think) and a Porche 924. The Mustang actually compared very well. Then Porche came out with the 944 and Ford had the Mustang GT and they still compared pretty well.

My first brother in law had a red 944 and sold it when he married my sister. They bought a 82 Mustang GT and he liked the GT but thought the Porche 944 was a better car. The Mustang was plenty fast but the Porche was a much better handler and he considered the Porche a more luxurious car.

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