Pro Mod said:I don't understand why anyone would buy an S281-E over a Cobra/GT500?
The "E" will out perform the GT500. It has an aluminum block that weighs less and produces 550+hp, plus it will probably handle a lot better too.Pro Mod said:I don't understand why anyone would buy an S281-E over a Cobra/GT500?
Tmack said:The "E" will out perform the GT500. It has an aluminum block that weighs less and produces 550+hp, plus it will probably handle a lot better too.
Tmack said:The "E" will out perform the GT500. It has an aluminum block that weighs less and produces 550+hp, plus it will probably handle a lot better too.
Pro Mod said:Different strokes for different folks, so I'm not trying to argue. But I will never pay 30k for the banner across the front windshield. Don't get me wrong, I am a Saleen fan... but from back in the day when they offered something BETTER/DIFFERENT than Ford offered to justify the price hike. The SA-10 & the S351 were what a real Saleen is to me.
That's true, but you are talking about a Saleen S281 E and a Shelby GT500. You would have to be out of your mind to modify them. As stated by Wsmatau you probably will see these cars down the road on the Barret-Jackson auction block, especially the S281 E.Pro Mod said:The S281E is still a 3V 4.6 that is built to near-full potential for the street, while the 475 :cough: "rating" of the GT500 is only scratching the surface of the 4V 5.4
Wsmatau said:1) Name recognition
2) Resale value
3) Collectability (especially on "E" models)
4) A warranty
5) A complete package that you can "get in and go."
6) More performance than most people dare use on the street.
I think you can disregard the markups for having the first one on the block because it is true of both cars. Some people have more money than patients.Pliskin said:You get the exact same thing with a Shelby. Oh and by the way, the entire stock we've sold down here had a $20k markup.
The amazing thing is that they sold.
Pliskin said:So a $60k Shelby Gt500 would probably be just as collectable as $75k Saleen S281E
Wsmatau said:I think you can disregard the markups for having the first one on the block because it is true of both cars. Some people have more money than patients.
Not nearly. Check how many "E"s have been built over the last 5 years and compare that to the 10k Shelbys they are going to build next year. An S281E is a rare car.
Pliskin said:Supply and demand. I know four people down here at the dealer that have either ordered one or plan on getting one. I'm sure they'll churn more out. Even so, they say they're making less Shelby's than they did the 04 Cobra's. So unless they changed their minds....
But what it all comes down to...I would take the Shelby over the Saleen any day. We get Saleens in all the time down here in the service dept. FAR more than the Cobras we get in. You can throw a fancy body kit and 600hp into a ****ty car and say its RARE but its still a ****ty car. A ****ty car with lots of double sided sticky tape on it.
"Power in the Hands of a Few" In 2002 Saleen only made 34 coupes and 20 verts in the "E" Model and even fewer over the next two years. Ford will defiantly produce more than a few hundred Shelby's. But, to each his own. If you don't like or want to own a Saleen that is defiantly your opinion and I respect that. But with the facts laid out, the Saleen S281 E will outperform and be a rarer stang than the Shelby.Pliskin said:Supply and demand. I know four people down here at the dealer that have either ordered one or plan on getting one. I'm sure they'll churn more out. Even so, they say they're making less Shelby's than they did the 04 Cobra's. So unless they changed their minds....
Tmack said:"Power in the Hands of a Few" In 2002 Saleen only made 34 coupes and 20 verts in the "E" Model and even fewer over the next two years. Ford will defiantly produce more than a few hundred Shelby's. But, to each his own. If you don't like or want to own a Saleen that is defiantly your opinion and I respect that. But with the facts laid out, the Saleen S281 E will outperform and be a rarer stang than the Shelby.
Wsmatau said:Remember the s281E actually outperforms the old S351 with better manners and handling to boot. That is not to desparage the S351s. Don't get me wrong, I almost bought one before I was married, and I truly believe that in 20 years they will be the big dog on the Barret-Jackson auction block. But, if you objectively look at the cars the "E"s are much more user friendly.
Wsmatau said:With the Shelby (and the '03-04 Cobra) , I think Ford finally decided to take back the market segment that Roush and Saleen had been monopolizing for so long. Obviously, I haven't driven a Shelby, but I think it is going to leave a lot of people disappointed by its handling. Of course if you're a drag racer that won't bother you. That is a different argument.
Pro Mod said:I guess I look at the mechanicals of the cars moreso than the collectability. But I just don't see the future collectability with all these tuner Mustangs; I see a factory Ford car having more or as much collectability. What's gonna be so collectable about a modified Mustang with a body kit & windshield banner?... there's tens of thousands of those out there.
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