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I tried to start my car the other day, and it turned over but no start. I tried again and then it wouldn't even turn over. I figured it was a battery so i went and bought a new battery and put it in, and still it just clicks. So the problem must be between the battery and the starter. The starter won't turn over, just click. Does anybody have any ideas? School starts tomorrow and i need my car running
 

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Here's a checklist:

Since some of the tests will bypass the safety interlocks, make sure that the car is in neutral and the parking brake is set. Becoming a pancake isn’t part of the repair process…

Check battery, terminal connections, ground, starter relay switch (also known as solenoid) and starter in that order.

A voltmeter is handy if you are familiar with how to use it to find bad connections. Measure the voltage drop across a connection: more than .5 volts across a connection indicates a problem.
See http://www.fluke.com/application_notes/automotive/circuit.asp?AGID=1&SID=103 for help


1.) Will the car start if it is jumped? Then clean battery terminals and check battery.

2.) Check the battery to engine block ground, and the ground behind the engine to the firewall.

3.) Jump the big terminals on the starter relay next to the battery with a screwdriver - watch out for the sparks! If the engine cranks, the starter and power wiring is good. The starter relay is also known as a starter solenoid.

4.) Then pull the small push on connector (red wire) off the starter relay (Looks like it is stuck on a screw). Then jump between the screw and the terminal that is connected to the battery. If it starts, the relay is good and your problem is in the rest of the circuit.

5.) Remember to check the ignition switch, neutral safety switch on auto trans and the clutch safety switch on manual trans cars. If they are good, then you have wiring problems.
Typical start circuit...



See http://www.autozone.com/images/cds/gif/large/0900823d80195963.gif for 88-90 year cars .OR see http://www.autozone.com/images/cds/gif/large/0900823d80195964.gif for 91-93 year cars. See http://www.autozone.com/servlet/UiB..._us/0900823d/80/1d/db/3c/0900823d801ddb3c.jsp for 94-95 model cars.

6.) The starter may be hung, loosen up the bolts that hold it on, and give it a good whack with a big hammer. Tighten up the bolts and try again.

7.) If that doesn't work, use a jumper cable from the positive lead on the battery direct to the starter post where the big wire from the relay connects. If it cranks then, it is the power wire from the relay gone bad. This will be hard to do, since there isn't much room to do it.

8.) Pull the starter and take it to Autozone or Pep Boys and have them test it. Starter fails test, then replace it. If you got this far, the starter is probably bad.
 

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It's not super uncommon for the block ground on the 94-95's to go south. The two large grounds are:

on the block adjacent the oil sending unit. Good luck accessing that one unless you have a midget friend in the circus. And there's one on the driver side motor mount that goes to the frame.

I'd toss a jumper cable between the engine and frame and see if it cranks a little better.

Good luck.
 

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Ok, i will check these. I had suspected a bad ground as my car would randomly turn off sometimes @ low speeds, combined with my stereo popping sometimes. I will check this tomorrow. Thanks
 

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Could a bad ground prevent the starter from turning over?
 

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Yes, it could prevent it from turning over. Usually a loose ground causes exactly what you are experiencing (just a click).
 

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Could a bad ground prevent the starter from turning over?
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Automotive Electrical Facts 101:
People need to remember that without a proper ground, the biggest alternator and hottest red top battery you can find are just fancy paperweights. A ground isn’t "just a ground", it is the return path for the electrical power. No Properly functioning ground, no circuit operation.
 

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Thanks, i will check out those grounds tonight.
 
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