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ddhawkfan

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hey guys thanks for the help on my thread about my car, but i figured you all would be the easiest group to ask a question about. my 88 mustang speed density still, is kinda stumbling when it gets warmed up. under light accel it will stumble and pop. i put a fuel pressure gauge on it to see maybe the pump is getting warm and losing pressure. now i can't get it to do it. but when driving its about 30-32 psi and under full throttle it goes to 40 psi. but KOEO it jumps to about 40 then immediately drops down to 10 or less. one injector is barely barely barely leaking externally i know that will contribute to the loss of pressure but i have never seen it drop that much on other cars for a little bit of seepage. mainly would i be on the right path to say the pump is losing pressure back into the tank? didn't know if that was common on these or not. any help would be appreciated
 

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i am sure the pump has gone south. it does sound like your frp is working so i would say time for a new pump
 
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so went and drove it again last night w/ the gauge ran and when it did it the pressure remained the same. i'm gonna pull the fuel rail and see if i have any leaking from the bottom.
 

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Dump the codes and see what the computer says is wrong…Codes may be present in the computer even if the Check Engine light isn’t on.

Here's the link to dump the computer codes with only a jumper wire or paper clip and the check engine light, or test light or voltmeter. I’ve used it for years, and it works great. You watch the flashing test lamp or Check Engine Light and count the flashes.

See Troublcodes.net Trouble Codes OBD & OBD2 Trouble Codes and Technical info & Tool Store. By BAT Auto Technical





If your car is an 86-88 stang, you'll have to use the test lamp or voltmeter method. There is no functional check engine light on the 86-88's except possibly the Cali Mass Air cars.



The STI has a gray connector shell and a white/red wire. It comes from the same bundle of wires as the self test connector.

89 through 95 cars have a working Check Engine light. Watch it instead of using a test lamp.



The STI has a gray connector shell and a white/red wire. It comes from the same bundle of wires as the self test connector.


There is a single dark brown connector with a black/orange wire. It is the 12 volt power to the under the hood light. Do not jumper it to the computer test connector. If you do, you will damage the computer.

What to expect:
You should get a code 11 (two single flashes in succession). This says that the computer's internal workings are OK, and that the wiring to put the computer into diagnostic mode is good. No code 11 and you have some wiring problems.

Codes have different answers if the engine is running from the answers that it has when the engine isn't running. It helps a lot to know if you had the engine running when you ran the test.

Trouble codes are either 2 digit or 3 digit, there are no cars that use both 2 digit codes and 3 digit codes.

Alternate methods:
For those who are intimidated by all the wires & connections, see Actron® for what a typical hand scanner looks like. Normal retail price is about $30 or so at AutoZone or Wal-Mart.

Or for a nicer scanner see EQUUS DIGITAL FORD CODE READER (3145) – It has a 3 digit LCD display so that you don’t have to count flashes or beeps.. Cost is $30.
 
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i did that actually last night, it flashed 9 times, i dunno what that means? but anyways. i put the pump in this afternoon, found the hose on the sender had a hole in it. it holds pressure a lot better, replacing that one injector tomorrow, i'm thinking the tfi module i got from o'reillys is junk so i'm gonna try my old one tomorrow and see where that puts me.
 
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well took the old module back to o'reillys and a buddy of mine worked there and traded me out of the cheap one for the borg warner one, works great now, no sputter, got power back. runs great.
 
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