Stupid $hit on this car is pissing me off......HELP

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fiveo'cobra

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Alright guys i am in the process of changing my PIP stator in the distributor and changing the TPS sensor. First off, what kind of bit do i need to take off the distributor hold down bolt? Its kinda way down in there and underneath the dizzy head so all the combos of different extensions/knuckles have not worked.

Second the damn TPS bolts. There are only two of them that hold it in yet i cannot get them off. I am using a #3 phillips head. Is there some kind of trick to getting these pos's off or do i just need to get an electric out there?

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as for the dizzy hold down bolt go to a auto store they sell wrenchs that will get it it just a wrench bent 90 degrees if u have a torch u can make one out of a craftsman wrench and then just return it when your done.
the other one im not sure
hope this helps
dan

 

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Thanks man i will do that.

Can anyone help me on the damn tps bolts? I really REALLY hate $hit like this. A two minute job ends up taking hours or days because of some stupid technicality. I've changed differentials faster than its taking to change a god damn sensor.

 

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Ok i just tried using a drill with a #2 phillips head bit to try and get the two TPS bolts off and it STILL wont work. WTFFFF!!!!!!!!! Why do two little bolts on a TPS sensor need to be so friggin tight? Somebody help me out here. Any tricks you guys can give me?

 

super302

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Aren't the TPS bolts 8mm??

Mine came off REAL easy, spray it with some WD-40 or liquid-wrench if they're really tight

FYI-this was on my fox, pretty sure the bolts are the same

BTW-make sure you don't lose the gasket on the TPS

 

HISSIN50

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I use 1/4" short socket on a 1/4" u-swivel, on a couple of extensions to loosen the dizzy hold down. If not, Sears, etc sell wrenches.

you will need to press the gear off the dizzy to do the PIP.

An impact driver can help with stubborn screws.

Good luck.

 

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super302, you must be thinking of the IAC bolts. The TPS is right behind it also mounted to the TB. I already got the dizzy out and i know about the whole pressing ordeal. The TPS on mine is held on by screws not 8mm bolts; They must have threadlocker on the damn screws or something because i put ALL my weight on the drill and nothing happened.

 

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fiveo'cobra said:

super302, you must be thinking of the IAC bolts. The TPS is right behind it also mounted to the TB. I already got the dizzy out and i know about the whole pressing ordeal. The TPS on mine is held on by screws not 8mm bolts; They must have threadlocker on the damn screws or something because i put ALL my weight on the drill and nothing happened.

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oops, my bad

all these dam letters are messing me up

 

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i dont think a electric is goin to work
1- not really enough torque to break them loose
2-propally just strip them lol no good..

try taking the screw briver and use a pair or vise grips and clamp them on to the handle of the screw driver and push in on the screw so not to strip it and use the vise grip to turn it it will give you more leverage..

or

get a 3/8 drive racket with a small extension or no extension and a philips bit that fits and do the same

first one is if u dont feel like buying a bit or have one. both will work better then using a screwdriver

let me know good luck
dan

 

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Relax dude. Dont fight with it.

 

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They are phillips screws from the factory. Good luck getting them out. You may want to remove your IAC valve for better access.

When you are done, find measure the length and thread type, and replace them with hex head bolts. I did, and it makes a world of difference.

Is the bit just spinning inside the screw head, or will the drill bit not even spin. If it won't spin, you are getting enough grip, but not enough torque. Try a more powerful drill , or change the setting on yours to the low speed (which is high torque).

Mine is a 440 in/lb 19.2 craftsman drill, which equates to appx. 37 ft-lbs of torque, so I never have any problems. I usually break the screwdriver bit before anything.
Scott

 

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i just had that problem, i used a small pair of vice grips on the screws (mind you i have the throttle body off) its not that they are torqued, its that they are coated in loc-tite. the vice grips broke them loose, then i used a screwdriver.

 

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Thanks guys. I will try the vise grips and the ratchet extension techniques tomorrow. I will get them out for sure tomorrow if i have to bust every knuckle open doing it.

 

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davins130 said:

i just had that problem, i used a small pair of vice grips on the screws (mind you i have the throttle body off) its not that they are torqued, its that they are coated in loc-tite. the vice grips broke them loose, then i used a screwdriver.

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This kind of thing can happen (galvanic corrosion), and I have also had real good luck with the vice grips. Folks who have had motorcycle float bowl fasteners seize know what I am talking about.

Good luck.

 

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If all else fails, you can try what I resorted to. I finally took a cutting wheel to the screw head, cut a fat groove into it and used a big flat head screwdriver. This elimintated the need to apply downward pressure while twisting.