TB Injection Install (Aces Killshot)

LILCBRA

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As I said in my "progress" thread:
So as I sit here and do whole lot of nothing - I went ahead and ordered the remainder of what I think I'll need to complete the install of the fuel injection system I bought. Unfortunately I don't have any kind of ETA for when I'll get started - not being very mobile kind of puts a damper on actually working on projects..... :(

3 more days until my follow-up and hopefully having this cast removed. I'm hoping that I'll be able to start bearing weight again. If I'm ok'd I'm planning on getting a jump on this, I kind of figure the house projects will be put on hold for a few months so my ankle can fully heal before I attempt to get on a ladder. But here's the list of stuff that I've bought over the last couple months:

Aces Killshot TBI system:
Fuel pressure regulator with gauge
Second gauge for redundancy and a pressure sensor to link to the Aces system with 2 inline fittings to incorporate them.
6AN fuel hose - 10' of rubber and 10' of PTFE with fittings (black for the rubber and blue/red anodized for PTFE).
25' of 3/8 Copper/Nickel fuel line
10 - 3/8" compression union fittings (in case bending the hard lines don't work like I hope.)
Inline 10 micron filter
An Aeromotive 18683 Fuel Pump and Hanger for a Fox Mustang (since I have a Fox tank in my car.... :))
Clamps to secure the hard lines to the body

Edit: added a new fuel level sender and connector for 83-86 Mustangs to remove the stock sender that I had to modify.

In addition to the above, I decided to purchase some tools to make the job easier:

Adjustable AN wrenches
AN vice jaws
A new, beefier tube bender than the one I have
1/8" letter stamps

The plan is to use the PTFE set with the anodized fittings to designate the pressure side from the tank through the throttle body to the regulator. I intend to use the black fittings and rubber hose to designate the return line. The compression fittings at each end of the hard lines are all black, so the thought is to try to use the letter stamps to mark their designations once they're all assembled to hopefully eliminate/minimize any kind of distortion from their use. As for running 2 gauges and the sensor, I'm going to keep one gauge on the regulator to make adjusting pressure easier. The second will be on the upstream side of the throttle body while the sensor will be on the downstream side.

I will also be doing some additional work while I have it apart. As it is now, my fuel tank straps are held in with through bolts on one side through the spare tire well. I used self tapping screws on the other side. The plan is to use the new rivnut tool I bought a while back and replace the self tapping screws with actual bolts. I also think that I'll tack weld the bolt heads in the spare tire well so I don't have to attempt to hold one end of the bolt while I tighten the nuts under the car - in all honesty, I don't even remember how I did it the first time. :shrug:

Anyway, this is the plan I have in my head. I'll update as I go along, but the big question I have for everyone - should I start a new thread just for this or should I keep it in this thread? What I was thinking is if it's in it's own thread it would make it easier for anyone to reference and I could just post a link in this one....

I finally ordered all of the parts I think I need to complete the conversion on my 302. I'm ditching the 650 double pumper and going with the Aces Killshot. I took advantage of their discounts over the Christmas holiday and got the system for <$800 because I'm tired of fiddling with the carb. I threw this carb together from all of the miscellaneous parts I had. It works, but tuning it seems to be more challenging than I want to deal with in a "toy." The thought is that the FI setup will make it more reliable, require less maintenance and upkeep, and make it a little easier to drive.

To keep this all in one thread, here's an edited version of the quote above:

I went ahead and ordered the remainder of what I think I'll need to complete the install of the fuel injection system I bought. Here's the list of stuff that I've bought over the last couple months:

Aces Killshot TBI system:

Fuel pressure regulator with gauge
Second gauge for redundancy and a pressure sensor to link to the Aces system with 2 inline fittings to incorporate them.
6AN fuel hose - 10' of rubber and 10' of PTFE with fittings (black for the rubber and blue/red anodized for PTFE).
25' of 3/8 Copper/Nickel fuel line
10 - 3/8" compression union fittings (in case bending the hard lines don't work like I hope.)
Inline 10 micron filter
An Aeromotive 18683 Fuel Pump and Hanger for a Fox Mustang (since I have a Fox tank in my car.... :))
New fuel level sender and connector for 83-86 Mustangs to remove the stock sender that I had to modify.
Clamps to secure the hard lines to the body

In addition to the above, I decided to purchase some tools to make the job easier:

Adjustable AN wrenches
AN vice jaws
A new, beefier tube bender than the one I have
1/8" letter stamps

The plan is to use the PTFE set with the anodized fittings to designate the pressure side from the tank through the throttle body to the regulator. I intend to use the black fittings and rubber hose to designate the return line. The compression fittings at each end of the hard lines are all black, so the thought is to try to use the letter stamps to mark their designations once they're all assembled to hopefully eliminate/minimize any kind of distortion from their use. As for running 2 gauges and the sensor, I'm going to keep one gauge on the regulator to make adjusting pressure easier. The second will be on the upstream side of the throttle body while the sensor will be on the downstream side.

I will also be doing some additional work while I have it apart. As it is now, my fuel tank straps are held in with through bolts on one side through the spare tire well. I used self tapping screws on the other side. The plan is to use the new rivnut tool I bought a while back and replace the self tapping screws with actual bolts. I also think that I'll tack weld the bolt heads in the spare tire well so I don't have to attempt to hold one end of the bolt while I tighten the nuts under the car - in all honesty, I don't even remember how I did it the first time. :shrug:

Anyway, this is the plan I have in my head. I'll update as I go along....

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I'm going to link everything I listed above in case anyone wants to try to go down this path, that way you can have a pretty complete shopping list. Since I've been laid up I ordered everything through Amazon as those are the best prices I was able to find. You might have better luck than me if you want to do a more comprehensive search.... :shrug:

Fuel pressure regulator with gauge
Amazon product
View: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CBPM4ZWX?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

Second gauge for redundancy and a pressure sensor to link to the Aces system with 2 inline fittings to incorporate them.
Amazon product
View: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B45S989T?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1
Amazon product
View: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08G8MCGKH?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details
Amazon product
View: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07RGF3VXW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

6AN fuel hose - 10' of rubber and 10' of PTFE with fittings (black for the rubber and blue/red anodized for PTFE).
Amazon product
View: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077GTNT9D?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details
Amazon product
View: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BHHDCLQT?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

25' of 3/8 Copper/Nickel fuel line
Amazon product
View: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015YGREXU?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details
Amazon product
View: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BN5SVK35?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1

10 - 3/8" compression union fittings (in case bending the hard lines don't work like I hope.)
Amazon product
View: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09MVSP56B?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

Inline 10 micron filter
Amazon product
View: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C5MQKD3J?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

An Aeromotive 18683 Fuel Pump and Hanger for a Fox Mustang (since I have a Fox tank in my car.... :))
Amazon product
View: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MZLV7Y6?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details
Amazon product
View: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C2HKKD4L?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

New fuel level sender and connector for 83-86 Mustangs to remove the stock sender that I had to modify.
Amazon product
View: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BQX4YMWY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Amazon product
View: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00531VKDM?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

Clamps to secure the hard lines to the body
Amazon product
View: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B1H55XZZ?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

In addition to the above, I decided to purchase some tools to make the job easier:

Adjustable AN wrenches
Amazon product
View: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09M8LGRSZ?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

AN vice jaws
Amazon product
View: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CP5MNV9C?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

A new, beefier tube bender than the one I have
Amazon product
View: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B8SBXKDP?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

1/8" letter stamps
Amazon product
View: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B082P7XN81?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details
 
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Somehow it slipped my mind that I'd need a fuel pump block off plate. :doh: It's now been ordered. I guess it's not a necessity really, but there's no reason to leave the mechanical fuel pump in it's place, is there?
 
As I sit here and basically do nothing, I realized I still need vacuum hose for the fuel pressure regulator, so that's been ordered too. I did a comparison between O'Reilly's website and Amazon and Amazon was cheaper by a few cents - every little bit helps, right? :shrug:

Between that and not really being able to walk yet, the choice was clear enough for me to go ahead and order it through Amazon.

Amazon product
View: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CDL5SY5G/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1


Side note, I've been following doctor's orders and trying to apply weight to my foot gradually. I'm hoping that I'll be able to walk with a cane this weekend or sometime into next week. If that happens I may get started on this.... :cross:
 
You’ll get there. Gives you more time to create the most detailed plan/schedule you ever imagined. Ask me how I know:

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(Nerve damage from falling off a ladder).

How do you know?! ;)

Seems to be common around these parts. We've got another heelie here too: @Potomus Pete

2nd go round for my foot. 1st was in 2015, car accident that smashed my heel and required reconstruction.

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I also have nerve damage from this, have no feeling on the bottom of my foot. But that injury led to decreased range of motion and was most likely a contributing factor to this round: stepped backward and off the edge of my driveway and dropped about 2 feet. I'm pretty sure I was going toe-down, heard a snap and screamed for a few minutes. Crawled into the house and called my buddy to run to the ER at around noon on New Years Eve day. Turned out to be a non-displaced pilon fracture of both the tibia and fibula. I had the cast removed last Wednesday and have been working on walking on it again. It feels A LOT better than it did last Wednesday, but I still have a ways to go before I can walk unassisted again. I'm hoping to be able to abandon the walker and turn back to my cane soon. Once I'm ok with that I may start on the car again, but we'll see how it goes....
 
I am going to work for this guy who at sixty two fell off a ladder at sixteen feet, and now he's permenant wheelchair. Broken back never to walk again. This guy has me all scared about a fall. Our ankles dont turn so it leads to falling down. Something I do more than I would like
 
Empty cat tree and a cane in the same frame?


You're a dead man. :ninja:


Scientific Nomenclature for Common House Cat: Destinatious Interruptous :O_o:

The good news is that I don't have a cat anymore. The bad news is that my niece is moving back in and bringing her 2 cats back. Luckily they're both kinda antisocial so they generally stay out of the way.

I am going to work for this guy who at sixty two fell off a ladder at sixteen feet, and now he's permenant wheelchair. Broken back never to walk again. This guy has me all scared about a fall. Our ankles dont turn so it leads to falling down. Something I do more than I would like

Yeah, I have a small fear of that now too. I also had a fear of doing exactly what I did this time..... :(
 
As I sit here and basically do nothing, I realized I still need vacuum hose for the fuel pressure regulator, so that's been ordered too. I did a comparison between O'Reilly's website and Amazon and Amazon was cheaper by a few cents - every little bit helps, right? :shrug:

Between that and not really being able to walk yet, the choice was clear enough for me to go ahead and order it through Amazon.

Amazon product
View: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CDL5SY5G/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1


Side note, I've been following doctor's orders and trying to apply weight to my foot gradually. I'm hoping that I'll be able to walk with a cane this weekend or sometime into next week. If that happens I may get started on this.... :cross:


So that vacuum line showed up yesterday. I gotta say that you've really gotta pay attention to the WHOLE ad..... I was looking for 3/16 ID vacuum line, this was labeled as 3/16 - but I failed to notice that it was the OD and the ID was listed as 1/8.... :doh:

SOOOOO..... my dumbass re-ordered the correct size, it should be here sometime later this week, which should work well for how my ankle is progressing. I took that selfie a few hours before I posted it on Thursday, but I could hardly stand on that foot on Friday. Then on Saturday it was feeling a LOT better and I actually ventured out of the house with my cane. I'm hoping to get started on this stuff later this week, weather permitting, and as long as the pain keeps subsiding as quickly as it has been.