The SN65 project car

Route666 said:

Hey just a thought, but SN65, since you're going for the factory look, have you thought about using like yellow paint dots and marks here and there like factory checks etc? I think it'd take the factory look to the extreme.

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Hi R666,

Great idea. I think we will end up with a combination of paint marks and factory stickers to push the factory look as far as possible. I imagine that we are going to have to be selective. Just like everything else, we don't want to go over the top.

Catch you later.

SN65
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one2gamble said:

so we need updates, I know that thing is getting close to the booth.

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Hi O2G,

Updates are on the way. I got in this morning and the chassis and engine bay are painted. Personally, I think it looks awesome. We will start assembling all the preliminary assemblies this week.

If you are nice, I will post some photos this afternoon.

Catch you later.

SN65
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Hi All,

Here are some quick picks for ya.





I am having a real hectic day, so this will have to do until tomorrow.

Catch you all later

SN65
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Hi All,

I would like to thank all who sent in an entry to the design contest. There were many fine ideas, all of which would look great on this car. I now have enough ideas to last me through the next 15 to 20 project cars.

Every single entry made the decision VERY difficult. As a small token of my appreciation, I am going to send off a memento of the project to all who entered. You should be receiving an e-mail requesting your mailing address in the next week or so. Please e-mail me if you do not receive notice by the 22nd of April.

With that said, the design we chose was turned in by a J Trudeau (a high school junior). The drawing is kind of rough, but you get the idea. Also, the wheels shown are 19" not 17" and look a bit to large for my taste. I think the over sized rim fad is going to fad out over the next year or two. Time will tell if I am right or wrong on this one.



He said he has been following the project ever since X-Mass break. He said he worked up the design NOT as he envisioned the car (He thought his tastes would be a bit to “wild” for my liking). Instead he worked up the design as if I were his client and used all the forum comments as a guide.

As you already know, the car will be 05 Ford Screaming Yellow and the graphics will be gloss black. The hood will be blacked out between the body lines that "line up" with the edge of the grill opening. The "black" will stop at the back of the hood and not continue onto the cowl panel. The grill and the brushed trim pieces will also be blacked out.

Also, the winner wished that "Man o' War" the greatest Thoroughbred of the 20th Century --and the millennium be painted (in phantom) on the flat area at the top of the drivers door. He also wants a plaque describing Man o’ Wars accomplishments mounted in the trunk.

Man o' War's time records included:

New World Record, Dwyer Stakes, 1 1/8 miles
New World Record, Belmont Stakes, 1 3/8 miles
New World Record, Lawrence Realization, 1 5/8 miles
New American Record, Jockey Club Stakes, 1 1/2 miles
New American Record, Withers Stakes, 1 mile
New Track Record, Kenilworth Park Gold Cup, 1 1/4 miles
New Track Record, Potomac Handicap, 1 1/16 miles
Equaled Track Record, Travers Stakes, 1 1/4 miles

On nearly a dozen occasions, the interior fractions of his races were completed in times that would have broken American and/or world records.

His records stood the test of time. His 1-1/2 mile American record stood for 17 years.

He didn't just take a tick off time records, he obliterated them. Up against Triple Crown winner Sir Barton, Man o' War took more than SIX full seconds off the track record for 1 1/4 miles at Kenilworth Park.

He won easily over tracks labeled fast, good and sloppy.

He won at distances from five furlongs to 1-5/8 miles.

He won on straight courses and on both clockwise and counter-clockwise courses.

He carried and won with 130 pounds five times as a TWO-year old.

At three, he won with 131 pounds in the Miller Stakes, 135 pounds in the Stuyvesant and 138 pounds in the Potomac.

He gave extreme weight concessions to the competition. In one race, the second high weight carried 32 pounds less.

At three, he consistently gave major weight concessions to, and beat, older horses.

He retired as the greatest money-winning Thoroughbred ever.

Writing in the 1947 volume of "American Race Horses," another legendary racing writer and historian, Joe Palmer, said of Big Red:

"He did not beat, he merely annihilated. He did not run to world records, he galloped to them. He was so far superior to his contemporaries that, except for one race against John P. Grier, they could not extend him. In 1920 he dominated racing as perhaps no athlete -- not Tilden or Jones or Dempsey or Louis or Nurmi or Thorpe or any human athlete -- had dominated his sport."

I love all his ideas. What do you think?

SN65
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Julian's Collision Center
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NasaGT said:

All of this original work, and as soon as I saw the yellow paint I thought "Boyd Coddington's Fastback." Somebody slap me.

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Hi N,

AAAUUUGGGHHH!!!!!

There, I feel much better.

I would love to see our car next to the Boydsters. I kind of liked the "mellow yellow" he chose, but I believe the 05 Screaming Yellow to have a bit more punch. Also, the choice of silver stripes did not do much for Boyds over all design. His colors had little or no contrast (if you convert his color image to grayscale the stripes almost disappear). I feel that graphics of any type should have at least a bit of contrast to make them pop a little bit.

Also, I would love to race our car against the Boydsters. Drag, road, slalom, skid pad, breaking, etc... Our car would kick his car's A$$.

Catch ya'll l8r

SN65
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Edbert said:

He said glossy, the gloss doesn't have me scratching my head as much as the part where it will end at the cowl and then be yellow back from there. I'd think the black should extend all the way to the windsheild. Got any drawings or pictures of the effect SN65?

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Hi E,

Actually, it will stop at the end of, and follow the conture of the "bulge" (clearance for the blower, etc...). The bulge will run, left to right, from body line to body line and stop approx 1" from the back of the hood. It was just easyer for me to say the end of the hood. Sorry for any confusion.

When we paint the car, we will stop the black as described and then take a look at it. We will continue it to the windshield if it looks "funny" at that time.

Also, Flat black is nice, but I like the gloss effect. Wasn't the flat black carried over to production cars from the race track (flat black cuts down on glare)?

Catch ya'll l8r

SN65
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Hi All,

And so it begins....





Working our way through this rat's nest is going to take some time, but nothing we can't handle. I should have the harness installed by the end of the day.

Also, we are picking up some of the parts from the powder coater today. I am looking forward to assembling the front and rear end of the beast.

Catch ya'll l8r

SN65
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Julian's Collision Center
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Edbert said:

Are you going to leave the interior primered like that? I know it is an epoxy and wont be visable, but like my friends who put detail inside of scale models that nobody will ever see, they do it "because God knows it's there".

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Hi E,

The "primer" is a self etching epoxy and will be fine. We were considering painting the interior, but... In order for the paint to adhear properly we would have had to sand ALL interior surfaces. A job that would be extreamly difficult with all the contures, etc...

I know that the interior should be painted, but as you said "it is an epoxy and wont be visable"....

Catch ya'll l8r

SN65
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Hi All,

Geezzzz....

I am going to have to rethink the graphic, etc... I have been getting a VERY strong response via e-mail saying that ANY graphic would be a mistake. In the past, I have received e-mail with comments on the project before, but these e-mails are bordering on the "scary" side. For example...

"Any graphics on this car would be a big, big mistake. I would tattoo my 1 year old daughter with gang symbols and sell her into a life of prostitution before I would defame, what has up to now, been one of the most incredible Mustang projects I have ever seen. Don’t do it. Don’t do it. Don’t do it.

OBTW, just in case I did not mention it before. DONT DO IT."

I know that the sender was just kidding about his daughter and all, but maybe, to be on the safe side, I should consider changing my name and moving to another state.

The gist of all the e-mail is...
Just paint the car and let it stand on its own merit. The CAR is the statement and any graphic at all will detract, not add to, the overall appearance of the car.

Confounded in Chicago...

SN65
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