The SN65 project car

xj220 · May 9, 2005

Most excellent. I'm curious, how much do you expect the car to weigh once you're finished? Will it be more 03 weight or 65 weight?

SN65 · May 9, 2005

xj220 said:
Most excellent. I'm curious, how much do you expect the car to weigh once you're finished? Will it be more 03 weight or 65 weight?

Hi XJ,

I am guessing that it will weigh in at about 3,200 lbs or so. I won't know for sure until it is finished so that I can actually weigh it.

Bob
Come see this WIP at
Julian's Collision Center
http://www.julianscollisioncenter.com/

darkness falls · May 10, 2005

So from the look of it, I can't imagine it being driven very much or at all

darkness falls · May 10, 2005

I will add that this project looks so amazing...I am envious. I am taking my project slowly and hope it turns out as good as yours had.

****that is hoping*****

reenmachine · May 10, 2005

darkness falls said:
So from the look of it, I can't imagine it being driven very much or at all

On the contrary. He's stated that it'll be shown heavily for a year and then driven heavily, including stuff like the Hot Rod Power Tour.

This ain't no trailer queen!

SN65 · May 11, 2005

reenmachine said:
On the contrary. He's stated that it'll be shown heavily for a year and then driven heavily, including stuff like the Hot Rod Power Tour.

This ain't no trailer queen!

Hi Reen,

If we didn't have to meet an ever growing list of show commitments over the next year, we would be driving it as soon as the paint was dry.

The only thing that will keep OUR butts out the drivers seat would be selling it. And for us to sell it would require a very pretty penny indeed. Actually, I would trade the car straight up for two pennies. One pristine 1943-D copper and one 1944-S Steel (both MS-69 certified).

Bob
Come see this WIP at
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SN65 · May 11, 2005

Hi All,

We continue to patently await the clutch and cooling mod. In the meantime we continue with the trial fit of the components we can.

We have installed the new oil filter / lower coolant casting to the block (new gasket and bolts). I am going to have to do a little research into the lower connections on the casting. the one facing down is plugged, but the one facing forward is currently open. I have no idea what these connections are normally used for. Anyone out there have a clue???

We are going to have to make a few adjustments to the two lines that come off the front rack and connect to the hydraulic system. Remember that we moved the rack forward 7" so these lines will have to be modified accordingly.

Also, the sway bar is now 7" forward and it appears that we will have a minor interference issue with one of the radiator coolant tank support brackets. We will just have to remove this item and bend accordingly. We are going to wait on this one until the front end is installed and we can run the sway bar through it's full range of motion.

We have the revised steering linkage installed and ready to go. I think this is going to work just great.

On another note, one of the body men glued a rear emblem on the tail light panel as a reminder to Corvette owners worldwide that this is the only part of the car they are ever going to see.

Catch ya'll l8r, it is time to get back to work.

Bob
Come see this WIP at
Julian's Collision Center
http://www.julianscollisioncenter.com/

68rustang · May 11, 2005

I know you are going for a "stock" look but are you keeping the original manifolds or going to headers? I don't like rusty cast exhaust manifolds.

SN65 · May 11, 2005

68rustang said:
I know you are going for a "stock" look but are you keeping the original manifolds or going to headers? I don't like rusty cast exhaust manifolds.

Hi RS,

Yes we are going to use the stock manifolds. We are going to burnish / age them so that the "rust" will be a nice even tone (not splochy, etc...).

Two items drove this decision. First, I did not want to use headers for a number of different reasons. Second, you will be hard pressed to see the exhaust manifolds (from either above or below) when the car is assembled.

Catch you l8r.

Bob
Come see this WIP at
Julian's Collision Center
http://www.julianscollisioncenter.com/

reenmachine · May 11, 2005

SN65 said:
We have installed the new oil filter / lower coolant casting to the block (new gasket and bolts). I am going to have to do a little research into the lower connections on the casting. the one facing down is plugged, but the one facing forward is currently open. I have no idea what these connections are normally used for. Anyone out there have a clue???

It's for the oil pressure sending unit.

SN65 · May 11, 2005

reenmachine said:
It's for the oil pressure sending unit.

Hi Reen,

Thanks for the help. I just pulled the sending unit from the cobra and am getting ready to install it the new casting.

Catch you l8r.

Bob
Come see this WIP at
Julian's Collision Center
http://www.julianscollisioncenter.com/

rdmjr83 · May 12, 2005

Hi SN65,
I read above about your keeping the manifolds and not liking headers. I was curious as to your reasons for not liking headers besides them not always fitting the combinations they're supposed to. To me it seems that if you are going to be showing this car at all, people are going to love the body modifications but as soon as you pop the hood and people start nosing around in there and they see those manifolds on there I think they'll be taken aback and start asking you why you kept them. Just my $.02. Either way the car is still amazing though. Keep up the good work and I look forward to seeing the completed project.

SN65 · May 12, 2005

rdmjr83 said:
Hi SN65,
I read above about your keeping the manifolds and not liking headers. I was curious as to your reasons for not liking headers besides them not always fitting the combinations they're supposed to. To me it seems that if you are going to be showing this car at all, people are going to love the body modifications but as soon as you pop the hood and people start nosing around in there and they see those manifolds on there I think they'll be taken aback and start asking you why you kept them. Just my $.02. Either way the car is still amazing though. Keep up the good work and I look forward to seeing the completed project.

Hi R,

Actually, I do like headers, just not for this application.

The things I do not like about headers are heat, noise, clearance and fit.

The things I like about headers are looks and improved performance. If I understand the 03 Cobra motor, long tube headers will net about a 20HP gain or about 5%. Other header configurations will net us less than that.

Long tube headers are pretty much out of the question. The ride height on this car is pretty low right now. I am concerned with ground clearance of the suspension and structure. I am pretty confident that long tube headers will constantly drag and turn the underside of the car into a giant 4th of July sparkler show.

Mid length and shorter headers (due to the nature of cramming 10 lbs of crap into a 1 lb box) are going to present clearance issues on the drivers side with the revised steering linkage.

So... It just does not make much sense to me. I would be very disappointed if we went through all the trouble of installing mid or short length headers, achieved maybe a 2% increase but ended up with a hot, noisy header that smacked against the steering linkage every time I jumped on it, and believe me, this car will be jumped on a lot (NOTE: OK, it is really Wayne I am worried about. I may be a little bit aggressive behind the wheel, but Wayne has always felt the need to push cars to the limit).

A lot of people have pushed the header issue from the start. Trust me. If I could resolve the clearance issues, I would be installing headers.

Catch you l8r.

Bob
Come see this WIP at
Julian's Collision Center
http://www.julianscollisioncenter.com/

NasaGT · May 12, 2005

If I may also add, the modular 4v heads are huge and make it difficult to see the headers. I don't think many people will ever see the headers on this car.

SN65 · May 12, 2005

Hi All,

Well... We have the front assembly just about as far as we can take it at this point. All we have left to do is paint the sway bar and the lower control arms and we are done.

We should have the clutch and the cooling mod in house by Monday. At that time we will assemble the engine and trans. Then the rear-end and the entire front suspension, engine, trans, etc... assembly goes in and we can roll this beast around the shop on it's own wheels for a change.

The tension mounts. Will the components arrive on time? Will Wayne be able to finish the chassis detailing before Bob is ready for assembly?. Will they meet this incredibly tight deadline or crash and burn along with all their aspirations? Tune in next time to the REAL American HR and see true personnel conflicts as Bob fires everyone in sight and Wayne turns around and hires them all right back.

Catch ya'll l8r, it is just about time for me to fire someone.

Bob
Come see this WIP at
Julian's Collision Center
http://www.julianscollisioncenter.com/

krash kendall · May 12, 2005

Don't forget to slam the office door behind you.

Edbert · May 12, 2005

krash kendall said:
Don't forget to slam the office door behind you.

And grow a freakishly large mustache.

68rustang · May 12, 2005

krash kendall said:
Don't forget to slam the office door behind you.

and throw a bunch of beeping beeps in there for beeps sake!, Gobeepamnit!

TT670 · May 12, 2005

That show has totally ruined my opinion of Boyd. Whod have thought that the street rod king was a really an a-hole dork?

Stang2Man · May 12, 2005

TT670 said:
That show has totally ruined my opinion of Boyd. Whod have thought that the street rod king was a really an a-hole dork?

I had heard he was even before the shows aired, didnt' want to think he was a-hole even though he's a car guy, but not all car guys are as perfect as us.

hehe

SN65
The car is coming along very sweety, how about if we trade? My 04 GT since it's newer for your 03 Cobra? Just an idea or we could trade for my 66coupe??

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