Going strictly by displacement is perhaps too simplistic, but I agree with the idea in principle. Forget CAFE, and put the burden of choice onto the consumer -- you get to decide how much the performance car or SUV is worth to you.
And really, how is $325 absurdly high anyway? The average joe spends 5 or 6 times that per year in gasoline alone, not to mention the price of the car, depreciation, insurance...
And if you can afford to own five cars, you can afford the feeWhen you own 5 cars, that adds up immensely.
Like I said, displacement might be too simplistic. The bill also mentions using emissions. That's a better choice.Between the four, I probably put out less in emissions
than one modified WRX driven 15,000 miles.
Easy -- exemptions for legitimate businesses. And poor people with limited resources are hardly going to be shopping big cars and SUV's.Besides collectors such as myself, this bill would have unfairly penalized people who need a large vehicle for work, such as contractors, construction workers, gardners and delivery drivers as well as poorer people who don't have the luxury of picking and choosing what they drive.
I take it you meant that as a cheap shot? Didn't work. My car gets 20 mpg just like my Mustangs did, it probably emits as much as they do (it ought to, it makes more power than the Mustangs did, excepting the '03 Cobra) -- it would get hit by the emissions part of that bill just like any big V8. My car is every bit as likely to fall to the CAFE axe as a big V8 muscle car is.This bill only "makes sense" to someone that drives a four cylinder vehicle.
Personally I welcome the day when SUVs have to pay for the privilege. Tell me, what's the gas guzzler tax on a GT500? What is it on an SUV that gets the same mileage?
FYI, one of the people on my email list actually got a response from one of the people on the committee saying that the bill was dead and wasn't going to make it out of committee. On the other hand, it could be reintroduced next session, so keep an eye out then.
I take it you meant that as a cheap shot?
And if you can afford to own five cars, you can afford the fee.
Like I said, displacement might be too simplistic. The bill also mentions using emissions. That's a better choice.
Easy -- exemptions for legitimate businesses. And poor people with limited resources are hardly going to be shopping big cars and SUV's.
I take it you meant that as a cheap shot? Didn't work. My car gets 20 mpg just like my Mustangs did, it probably emits as much as they do (it ought to, it makes more power than the Mustangs did, excepting the '03 Cobra) -- it would get hit by the emissions part of that bill just like any big V8. My car is every bit as likely to fall to the CAFE axe as a big V8 muscle car is.
There is a very real problem with the way the gov't is currently regulating vehicle emissions. To me it sounds like the bill in Washington is an early, if imperfect attempt to find an equitable solution. The only folks who get really offended are those who think they should be allowed to do whatever they want at no cost, and damn everybody else around them. Reminds me a lot of the people who insist going catless is their god given right.
Personally I welcome the day when SUVs have to pay for the privilege. Tell me, what's the gas guzzler tax on a GT500? What is it on an SUV that gets the same mileage?
My big issue is against all of us who have already bought cars. If it were a fee for new cars, that would make an impact, but there are a lot of people who have old cars and cannot afford new ones, who will have to pay these high yearly taxes. The cost of living is already too high.
We need to stop crying like girls over passenger vehicle emissions and go after the big polluters, heavy industry.
+1. Starting with Coal power plants. The reason this **** happens is that the guy that owns the coal and natural gas power plants can afford to line the pockets of politicians while the farmer or logger or whatever that needs his truck cannot. Meanwhile, said politician needs to show that he is "forward thinking and green", so he comes of with **** legislation like this piece of trash to keep up appearances. This is similar to the tax breaks that *******s that drive priuses and insights and other hybrids in California get. Those hybrids that get them the tax breaks get SLIGHTLY better fuel mileage than othr cars and are loaded with hundreds of lbs lithium and lead in their batteries that are only good for so long until they are junk, and end up in a landfill. We need to focus on nuclear power and Hydrogen fuel. And don't even get me started on E85. Takes tons of coal derived power to make and worse fuel mileage than gasoline. Crap crap crap. Someone needs to lift the veil of ***** the news media, Al Gore, and all the other bureaucrats have collectively put in front of our faces.And for some reason that veil is alot thicker and stinkier in oregn, Washington, and California. Oh yeah, and if you hate this, don't vote democrat. if you do, this will be the tip of the iceberg.
+1. Starting with Coal power plants. The reason this **** happens is that the guy that owns the coal and natural gas power plants can afford to line the pockets of politicians while the farmer or logger or whatever that needs his truck cannot. Meanwhile, said politician needs to show that he is "forward thinking and green", so he comes of with **** legislation like this piece of trash to keep up appearances. This is similar to the tax breaks that *******s that drive priuses and insights and other hybrids in California get. Oh yeah, and if you hate this, don't vote democrat. if you do, this will be the tip of the iceberg.
My friend, you are sadly mistaken. My father’s sole way of putting bread on my table growing up was working at a coal fire power plant here in Oregon. He worked at Trojan and has worked for PGE for 27 years. I have toured the power plant and have first hand knowledge as to how much "pollution" it actually emits. Due to strict laws the coal fire plant, at least the one in our state, is as environmentally friendly as possible.
I am so far from the left its not even funny, so we agree on that. On the subject at hand I agree it’s a very crude version of an interesting law, but it seems as though liberalism tends to be the precipice for this forward thinking and abandonment towards reality thus forcing us to live in the state of "equality" we are leveling towards...
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