Well I really was hoping for a little bit better time out of Mr. Evans... I mean the GT500 has a straight axle now, better stock GY rubber, skinnier front tires, a larger displacement motor, and 3 years more developement. Not much of an improvement over his Terminator times all things considered.CatmanJJ said:The GT500 sucks, it's a pig blah blah blah. /sarcasm
Yeah I'm sure it does. How much that affected his times (if any) is up for debate though. The torque management on my '03 never seemed to be a problem prior to my custom tune. Then again I don't power shift either.CatmanJJ said:Also doens't the stock tune have the torque management?
I'm sure the intake and exhaust is plugged up just like the 03/04's were. Modding this new beast won't be quite as easy as it was on the previous snake though... the design of the blower snout makes a simple pulley swap virtually impossible. Plus the SC belt is buried behind the accessory belt unlike the Terminators. Then there is the sensor boss formed as part of the timing cover which makes a lower pulley swap a no-go. (Pics courtesy of Postban at ModFords)CatmanJJ said:Should be interesting to see how much a simple tune helps the car out, and I wonder if the intake and exhaust is bottled up like it is on the Terminators...if so modifications should yield even better performance gains with the larger 5.4 motor.
Uncle Meat said:All in all I'm not very impressed with the GT500. I really expected more... what we have here folks is a pig wrapped in snake skin that's going to cost you your first born to own...The again, once you open up the intake and exhaust, slap a twin screw & tune on her, and put the car on a diet it just may end up being a real screamer.
U.M.
Uncle Meat said:I'm still a little disappointed that Evan didn't pull a better time. He was able to squeeze off a best of 12.43 @ 113 mph - in an '03 terminator according to the October 2002 MM&FF. The weather conditions at Milan when he ran the GT500 were 66 oF, RH=46% and BP = 29.9 in-Hg. That means an SAE J1349 CF of 0.9733, which means the car was making about 2.7% more power than it would at SAE reference weather conditions. (<-Stolen from Black2003Cobra at SVTPerf)
All in all I'm not very impressed with the GT500. I really expected more... what we have here folks is a pig wrapped in snake skin that's going to cost you your first born to own...The again, once you open up the intake and exhaust, slap a twin screw & tune on her, and put the car on a diet it just may end up being a real screamer.
U.M.
Stock pulley, but the sway bar was removed as well as the spare tire & jack., and I'm pretty sure it was still on the stock F1's. I'd have to go dig the article up to be 100% sure. Anyone have access to their stah of old MM&FF handy?mustangman2000 said:I think the 12.43 time was with a lightning pulley (which is smaller than the stock Cobra), removed sway bar and slicks. I may be wrong, but that is what I thought.
Uncle Meat said:Stock pulley, but the sway bar was removed as well as the spare tire & jack., and I'm pretty sure it was still on the stock F1's.
U.M.
As stated previously.... straight axle, better rubber, skinnier front tires, larger displacement motor, 3 years more developement, better conditions. Heck I don't think the new GT500 even comes with a spare tire or jack! At least that's what I'm hearing.351CJ said:And what did they do to the GT-500 to run a 12.25?
Uncle Meat said:As stated previously.... straight axle, better rubber, skinnier front tires, larger displacement motor, 3 years more developement, better conditions. Heck I don't think the new GT500 even comes with a spare tire or jack! At least that's what I'm hearing.
U.M.
Sorry I misunderstood where you were coming from on that previous post. As far as I know they didn't do jack squat besides disable the traction control system! Those times were pretty much right out of the box.351CJ said:I know what Ford did with the GT-500, my question was what did MM&FF do to run a 12.25?
Usually they do things such as:
Disconnect the front sway bar
Drop the rear tire pressure
Pump up the front tire pressure
Ice down the air intake (or intercooler)
Remove the spare tire & jack
(maybe on the GT-500 they took out the can of Fix-A-Flat to save weight)
So what sort of things like that did MM&FF do?
RICKS said:Huh??
Since when were the factories expected to mass-produce performance cars that are faster than tuner-built cars, yet still pass strict emission standards, be durable enough to be able to cover them with a good warranty even though lead-footed idiots will be buying them, have longevity that will allow them to easily crest 150,000 miles without a rebuild, be docile enough that they can perform at sea level or 12,000 feet above, in 110 degree weather or zero degrees, on lousy 93 octane pump gas..
Yet they have to do that, and you want them to be faster than some tuner-shop's 6-banger drag car that could never dream of being daily driven for 10-years-straight?
When Ford came out with the '93 Cobra, me and all my buddies had 11 second 5.0's that we built in our garages.
There's no comparison between what you can build, and what a manufacturer who is selling new cars can build. No comparison. Tuner-built cars don't pass any of the criteria that Ford engineers have to meet.
RICKS said:Huh??
Since when were the factories expected to mass-produce performance cars that are faster than tuner-built cars, yet still pass strict emission standards, be durable enough to be able to cover them with a good warranty even though lead-footed idiots will be buying them, have longevity that will allow them to easily crest 150,000 miles without a rebuild, be docile enough that they can perform at sea level or 12,000 feet above, in 110 degree weather or zero degrees, on lousy 93 octane pump gas..
Yet they have to do that, and you want them to be faster than some tuner-shop's 6-banger drag car that could never dream of being daily driven for 10-years-straight?
When Ford came out with the '93 Cobra, me and all my buddies had 11 second 5.0's that we built in our garages.
There's no comparison between what you can build, and what a manufacturer who is selling new cars can build. No comparison. Tuner-built cars don't pass any of the criteria that Ford engineers have to meet.
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