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Fox Why I Should Not Do A Solid Lifter High Compression Motor

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CarMichael Angelo

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cleanLX said:
I get the super cheap builds that last for a while, but they are not my cup of tea.
90 passes sounds like a lot to some possibly, but I had more than that running sportsman my first year, and I didn't make every race.
It seems many of the stories of cheap thrown together stellar performers have similar a fate, when folks are honest.
I appreciate your honesty.
At the other end of the spectrum;
Guy I know well, friend if you will, he and I used to race with nearly every weekend. He built a solid roller naturally aspirated Dart 347 back before folks started the 363 craze. All top notch machine work, top notch internals, quality heads, carb, worked over C4 and it all sits in a 79 pace car. (I'm sure I can get details if anyone really needs them) Same shop that built his motor later built mine... one of the reasons I chose that shop is because of the following...
His car has been running 10.teens @ 130mph for 13 or more years... in crappy Phoenix AZ air. It's a solid 9 second car in mine shaft that is the north-east. It's got a little more in it, but he was not shelling out the $ in safety to run 9's (chassis certs, cage certs, chute, comp license etc).
I bet over a 5 year period we probably made 6 passes per track outing, 25(or more) weeks out of the 52 weeks in a year. It's very safe to say the car has well over 1000 passes on it.
He still runs it (not as often as we used to), and the car is still dead reliable and consistent running 10.teens and bringing home the goods in the local bracket series.

Like I said, I get the super cheap builds, but I'm more of a commitment guy.
I'm not judging which way is better/worse, right/wrong... either way done well are very impressiv to me.
To each his own.
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Boosted92LX said:
I know people who have literally spent over 20k on an engine from a reputable race engine builder, and scattered it down the track.. I can only imagine how sick they were. The bottom line is, it doesn't matter how "committed " you are, chit happens. Spending a ton of cash doesn't mean your motor is going to last forever if you beat on it. I've had slapped together junk that SHOULD have exited the car, and I sold it because i wanted something new, after beating on it for a couple of years ruthlessly. I can see your point, and there is something to the addage "You get what you pay for," but there's another that goes "More bang for the buck." I think anyone who does this thing we do can expect to lunch an engine anytime.. But if you are going to risk it, why wouldn't you want to kick the guy's ass next to you, and still have money in your pocket to celebrate while making your house payment?

To each his own I guess..
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Be advised gentlemen I'm talking about 90 double bottle nitrous passses that year. I'm guessing at that. I figured that the car was at the track every other Friday night during that time ( I had to spend the other week end with the wife and kid).
While there, I also guessed at about 6 passes per night during a 5-6 month season.
The first year there was no bottle. The second and third years got progressively more careless or.......stupid.
 
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TOOLOW91

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Noobz347 said:
When I was much much younger, my parents had an 81 Granada. All of the thoughts and dreams I had when I discovered that it was the same platform as the Mustang GT. lol
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Another local car here . It's a roller now but was 302 single turbo , then it went Ls single turbo all with a FB aod . Then passed through the group of friends including myself as a roller and now a friend of mine is putting a dart 408 11:1 motor in it with a c4 .
 
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Boosted92LX

It's only an inch or two. What's the big deal?
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madmike1157 said:
Be advised gentlemen I'm talking about 90 double bottle nitrous passses that year. I'm guessing at that. I figured that the car was at the track every other Friday night during that time ( I had to spend the other week end with the wife and kid).
While there, I also guessed at about 6 passes per night during a 5-6 month season.
The first year there was no bottle. The second and third years got progressively more careless or.......stupid.
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Like I said... I'll take bang for the buck.
 
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RaggedGT

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Sooooooo..... Picked up a 460 yet?

lol
 

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He probably saw a squirrel. Or a fermented chicken.
 
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Well, I've looked around at this as a solution a bit...

It may not be the economical pick of the century that it used to be.

Take a look at current prices for 460s and rebuild parts etc....
 

stykthyn

I want to measure mine. It doesn't look that tall.
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Where's the mythical white car this is going into?
 
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Here it is-Fresh from paint
 
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Davedacarpainter

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Ah Noobz, you're getting no respect here!
 

stykthyn

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Davedacarpainter said:
Ah Noobz, you're getting no respect here!
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If I did, I'd be certain that I was in the wrong forum.

Forgot all about it. I'll get them up this week.
 
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Wow, Noobz looks just like Rodney Dangerfield!
 
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Chuckman

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You know, this is starting to sound eerily similar to another build on these boards....
 
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stykthyn said:
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saw him live about 25 years ago at the Fillmore East. Right at the height of his career around Caddyshack. The man had an amazing gift and comedic timing. Drank like a fish and went through women like a turbo owner goes through head gaskets.
 
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CarMichael Angelo

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Noobz347 said:
Well, I've looked around at this as a solution a bit...

It may not be the economical pick of the century that it used to be.

Take a look at current prices for 460s and rebuild parts etc....
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You are gonna have to get dirtier than that if you want to build a cheap 460. Do you want me to find the stuff for you?
 

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madmike1157 said:
You are gonna have to get dirtier than that if you want to build a cheap 460. Do you want me to find the stuff for you?
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Nope... but I'm not sold yet that this is the route I'm going to take either.
 

A5literMan

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Friend of a friend built a 460 with the Motorsport alum heads a few years ago. Put it into a 86 GT. Car ran low 10's and he drove it all over. Eventually it ruptured a fuel line and burnt to the ground(no extinguisher) going home from the gas station. I remember it being a fairly simple/cheap build but don't remember the complete details. It was nose heavy and still had the stock brakes...trying to stop was...interesting
 

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Magnets and copper coils Noobz, magnets and copper coils - be the first kid on the block with that on all four corners of a Fox
 

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Nah. One large electric motor feeding a transmission. WAY easier.......
 

CarMichael Angelo

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a91what said:
Nah. One large electric motor feeding a transmission. WAY easier.......
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and about a thousand pounds of batteries and 0 ga copper cable
 
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