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Will I beat these rice burnner

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Thanks. For the info
 

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Thanks.

Would anybody have an estimate of my Dyno numbers and 1/4 mile time
 
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SemperFIGOD said:
Thanks.

Would anybody have an estimate of my Dyno numbers and 1/4 mile time
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My advice: Buy a G-Tech Pro...you'll get that info and more.

Do an eBay search for them...you can get them new for around $50 (retails for $130ish).
 
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criticman said:
My advice: Buy a G-Tech Pro...you'll get that info and more.

Do an eBay search for them...you can get them new for around $50 (retails for $130ish).
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Or just go to the track and pay $10 and see what it really runs.

I was with my buddy and we raced a Stage 1 SRT-4, from a second gear roll the mustang had the neon all the way to 105mph and the SRT-4 starting pulling very very good. The mustang was a 01 GT with accufab plenum/TB and flows. Those neons are fast no doubt. They make good torque too.
 

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How worked are those heads? Thats an awfull lot of cam and carb. What gear are you running? I would think just about anything would get you off the line unless your running a ****load of gear, especially since your talking about a full weight GT.
 

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Or just go to the track and pay $10 and see what it really runs.
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I like this guys way of thinking
 
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don't forget about traction....unless your going from a roll
 

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I have Stock Gears.
But find my self in bliss not knowing what to do next the exhaust or my rear end.

I guess that is also a good question. What would benefit me more the exhaust or the rear end?
 
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SemperFIGOD said:
I have Stock Gears.
But find my self in bliss not knowing what to do next the exhaust or my rear end.

I guess that is also a good question. What would benefit me more the exhaust or the rear end?
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Not going from true knowledge, but from "what I've heard," gears are the way to go in terms of most "starter" power adders. Exhaust is only going to give you nice sounds and MAYBE a little (miniscule) gain in HP/torque.
 

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GEARS !!!!
 

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SemperFIGOD said:
I have Stock Gears.
But find my self in bliss not knowing what to do next the exhaust or my rear end.

I guess that is also a good question. What would benefit me more the exhaust or the rear end?
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To answer your original question, if I had to put my money down in a race, as much as I hate to say it I think I would put my dime on any of the aforementioned ricers. Not trying to dog at all, just constructive critisism. Your combo is about as unbalanced as you can get. You have a huge cam and carb that probably doesnt come on til like 4k and your running highway gears and exhaust that peters out before the motor can start making any real power. I would say gear (and alot of it) as your next mod. Then exhaust, and I would be willing to bet that it would run quite a bit better with a 650 and less cam as well.
 

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I HATE SRT-4's!

I recently went to the track after installing a bunch of new stuff, (GT-40 upper and lower intake, cobra computer, 24# injectors, 70 mm mass air, 70 mm tb, and a few others, i ran a 13.6 the first time i ran, rolled up again next to an SRT-4, this thing looked like the biggest riceball ever. It had the clear lights and some corny paint job so i figured i would roast it... well i was wrong, and another thing, THEY DONT HAVE TRACTION ISSUES. This thing must have had the turbo upgrade or something because it ran a 12.2 and totally blew me away in front of like 500 people. I was pissed for a month.
 

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I guess I will go with the gears even though I hate the way my exhaust sounds.

Now Will the gears give me a bigger edge on the Ricers?
I am thinking about 4.10 and a Locking differential (but not sure which one)
 

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MrKwik said:
Your combo is about as unbalanced as you can get. You have a huge cam and carb that probably doesnt come on til like 4k and your running highway gears and exhaust that peters out before the motor can start making any real power. I would say gear (and alot of it) as your next mod. Then exhaust, and I would be willing to bet that it would run quite a bit better with a 650 and less cam as well.
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What do you suggest I can do to balance my combination without replacing the carb or cam?
 
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What do you suggest I can do to balance my combination without replacing the carb or cam?
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Tha'ts just it, isn't it? Your cam seems to be your largest problem area. Personally, I don't know a whole hell of allot about cams (just enough to be dangerous) but call around to a few places (Like Crane or even your local speed shop). Describe to them, your setup. See what they recommend. My cam isn't perfect but it's FMS and fit in with my stock pistons and was within lift range recommended by Trick Flow for the heads I'm running on those stock pistons so I went with it. My next cam is going to be custom ground by Kennedy's Dyno Tune to not only meet my lift limitation but maximize the use of my blower. In other words: I'm putting into the hands of folks who know cams.
 
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SemperFIGOD said:
I have Stock Gears.
But find my self in bliss not knowing what to do next the exhaust or my rear end.

I guess that is also a good question. What would benefit me more the exhaust or the rear end?
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DUDE, get some friggin gears, with that set up 4.10's are a minimum, and then look at a good set of LT headers, probably in the 1.75" Range, along wiht a good X or H pipe.

I have never heard of anyone running a Z303 cam at all...that is a WHOLLOTTA Cam in that combo.

My guess is that you would probably pick up some responsiveness by getting a cam that is matched to your combo.

Hax
 

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If you had to pick one then get the gear. Performance wise you'll be happier. If you want the sound and the head turning attention than you go the other route.
 

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SemperFIGOD said:
What do you suggest I can do to balance my combination without replacing the carb or cam?
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The only thing that I think would help, and I stress help, is the gear and exhaust. And I mean alot of gear, probably more than a 4:10. Seriously though, you will spend more time and money trying to make that cam work than if you just swapped it out. I guarantee you would be happier in the long run. I mean your going to have to run so much gear that it wont be much fun for the street, and your powerband is going to be so high that you will really be pushing the limits of that stock bottom end anyway. What compression do they reccomend with that cam? I would bet more than stock. Why are you so attached to that cam? Is it the sound? You can get that big cam sound with a much more civilized cam that will be a better match for the rest of the car. If its a money issue, throw the stock one back it there, I bet you would be surprised. I speak from experience here. Back in my younger days I used to think that I could just buy the biggest baddest cam out ther, throw it in and have the most wickid fast best sounding rod around. What I usually ended up with was a pig that wouldnt idle in gear, would load up at a stop light, would eat spark plugs weakly, had no power brakes and just plan ran like dog ****. And I didnt learn the first time either, I made the same mistake more than once. I got really good at cam swaps let me tell ya.
 

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The only thing that I think would help, and I stress help, is the gear and exhaust. And I mean alot of gear, probably more than a 4:10. Seriously though, you will spend more time and money trying to make that cam work than if you just swapped it out. I guarantee you would be happier in the long run. I mean your going to have to run so much gear that it wont be much fun for the street, and your powerband is going to be so high that you will really be pushing the limits of that stock bottom end anyway. What compression do they reccomend with that cam? I would bet more than stock. Why are you so attached to that cam? Is it the sound? You can get that big cam sound with a much more civilized cam that will be a better match for the rest of the car. If its a money issue, throw the stock one back it there, I bet you would be surprised. I speak from experience here. Back in my younger days I used to think that I could just buy the biggest baddest cam out ther, throw it in and have the most wickid fast best sounding rod around. What I usually ended up with was a pig that wouldnt idle in gear, would load up at a stop light, would eat spark plugs weakly, had no power brakes and just plan ran like dog ****. And I didnt learn the first time either, I made the same mistake more than once. I got really good at cam swaps let me tell ya.
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So What Cam do you suggest? keepin in mind that I will go with the 4.10 gears.

Oh and yeah I do love the sound that the cam gives out.


----One more question will changing my intake help me ?-----
-----------I currently have the Edekbrock Air Gap RPM Intake.
----Would a single plane inkae help?
----------Would supercharging the engine be beneficial b/c it is something that I tought about?
 

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So What Cam do you suggest? keepin in mind that I will go with the 4.10 gears.

Oh and yeah I do love the sound that the cam gives out.


----One more question will changing my intake help me ?-----
-----------I currently have the Edekbrock Air Gap RPM Intake.
----Would a single plane inkae help?
----------Would supercharging the engine be beneficial b/c it is something that I tought about?
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How fast do you want to spin the motor? Figure that out and it will be easier to pick a combo that makes power where you want it. It doesnt do much good to have heads cam and intake that make the most power from 4500 to 7500 if you have a shortblock that is only capable of turning 6k. Going to a single plane intake will probably just make you loose more low end, I would stick with the one you have. I have heard alot of good things about the trick flow stage 1 but Im sure there are alot of guys on here that could do a better job of recomending a specific cam than me. One thing you can do is to get on the horn with a few different cam manufactures and tell them your combo, what gear you want to run etc and see what the recommend.
 
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