WTF is this Performance chip? $8 for 60HP Increase?

chalosf · Feb 20, 2008

I saw this on Ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/PERF...021QQitemZ310025060858QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

It claims the chip gives you 60HP increase and better MPG..Now according to the feedbacks its a Lie and its nothing more then a resistor, how can they possibly stay in business, looks like they have sold a couple of thousand and EBAY has not done anything about it so there might be some truth to it? If so realistically what kind of HP should you expect from something like this? If anyone knows exactly what there "chip" is actually doing please enlighten me.

Thanks

Kelso Gringo · Feb 20, 2008

You should expect squat. They dont work, period.

rugster · Feb 20, 2008

think about how low their costs are, resistors are dirt cheap. For every one they sell they cover the cost of 100 more resistors.

chalosf · Feb 20, 2008

rugster said:
think about how low their costs are, resistors are dirt cheap. For every one they sell they cover the cost of 100 more resistors.

I know resistors are cheap, i get them at 0.10 a piece but just wondering if anyone knew exatcly what they are doing...

Whats funny is there return policy is money back no questions ask, however they charge $6 for shipping, they ship with a 0.41 stamp so even if you return it they make $5 from you since the shipping you paid is not given back to you just the price of the "chip" so yeah they are making alot of money on these.

rugster · Feb 20, 2008

the resistor tricks the sensor into thinking the air coming in is colder (i think) and by doing this allows the car to bump everything up a bit and supposedly make more power

04GTMustang · Feb 20, 2008

you will gain more power from the stickers they probably send you lol.

Mustang92 · Feb 20, 2008

I haven't seen the item first hand but it's nothing more than a resistor in pretty packaging that plugs into the IAT sensor. It's a known trick that was pretty popular a few years back. There were charts with the resistors values and it would tell you a certain value to use and the corresponding temps it would make the PCM think it was outside. It didn't add timing it just prevented it from pulling timing when it read the temp of the incoming air was warm.

For example if the PCM commands 14* initial timing at idle when the IAT temp was 70* then at 80* it may pull 2* of timing the resistor put in place would fool it to think it was 70* even though it was warmer. Depending on your tune from the factory (usually they are very conservative) you would be okay but if you had a tune it could cause detonation.

Obviously someone took that little trick and created a bunch of ebay BS and is making money off of the nieve people that don't know any better. Just like the people that bought the Tornado or those electronic superchargers that use to be sold on ebay.

Bill

ErikTheBeast · Feb 20, 2008

Stage 12 chip ?! No Way , im ordering 7 now !

chalosf · Feb 20, 2008

Mustang92 said:
I haven't seen the item first hand but it's nothing more than a resistor in pretty packaging that plugs into the IAT sensor. It's a known trick that was pretty popular a few years back. There were charts with the resistors values and it would tell you a certain value to use and the corresponding temps it would make the PCM think it was outside. It didn't add timing it just prevented it from pulling timing when it read the temp of the incoming air was warm.

For example if the PCM commands 14* initial timing at idle when the IAT temp was 70* then at 80* it may pull 2* of timing the resistor put in place would fool it to think it was 70* even though it was warmer. Depending on your tune from the factory (usually they are very conservative) you would be okay but if you had a tune it could cause detonation.

Obviously someone took that little trick and created a bunch of ebay BS and is making money off of the nieve people that don't know any better. Just like the people that bought the Tornado or those electronic superchargers that use to be sold on ebay.

Bill

So 60hp increase is complete BS but 10-15hp increase is possible?

LaserSVT · Feb 20, 2008

Works as well as the Air Tornado "supercharge any car for $69.95.......adds 30% more hp"

TrueBlue03 · Feb 20, 2008

chalosf said:
So 60hp increase is complete BS but 10-15hp increase is possible?

nah. if it did, everyone on this board would have done it by now.

and those 60 or 70 hp they're talking about are usually (bragged) up increase numbers in hp and tq when you chip large turbo diesel engines (notice it says that it wont even work on diesel engines....and it doesnt even say mustangs next to those claims)....and even if it did something at all, it wouldnt do do anywhere near what they are saying for your car.

jprovence · Feb 20, 2008

Someone else looking for a free lunch when it comes to moding their car.

00GTpony · Feb 21, 2008

changing ur shift knob gives you more horsepower than that chip

mazen189 · Feb 21, 2008

lol.
60 hp?
hahahahaha

Mustang92 · Feb 21, 2008

chalosf said:
So 60hp increase is complete BS but 10-15hp increase is possible?

Nope. I would say closer to 4-5RWHP and if you leave it in too long the PCM/ECM will adjust for it. It was really something to do only at the track for short periods of time. It was also a way to make the car run more consisently because it wasn't pulling timing based on weather it was fixed at a certain temp. That's why no one really talks about it any more because 4-5RWHP for a few passes really isn't worth the trouble for most people and it really only helps if you have an open style air filter and are racing in warm areas.

Bill

SaleenGT2001 · Feb 21, 2008

ACR performance chip specifications

- 60+ Horsepower (65-70+ HP on trucks and SUV's) who need nitrous or a supercharger

- 60+ Ft. lbs of Torque ( 65-70+ Torque on trucks and SUV's) again looks like this is a true miracle

- 20+ MPG better fuel Efficiency GUARANTEED! so what do i get if the guarentee isnt good?

- Faster Acceleration

- Faster Track times

- Improved 1/4 and 1/8th mile track times proof?

- Better mid-range acceleration really?

- Higher Top-End power what about the low end power?

- Increased towing power for those who use their mustang as a tow vehicle for their other mustang

- Smoother shifting (Automatic and manual transmissions) the tranny is connected to the IAT sensor??

- Smoother Idle

- Extends the life of your spark plugs ok?

- Extends the time between costly engine Tune-ups we all know how much those darn spark plugs can cost

- More low end torque THERES THE LOW END POWER

- 75%+ Quicker throttle response time

- Cleaner Engine Heads

- Cleaner and faster revs AS OPPOSED TO DIRTY REVS

- Higher Top-Speed and Improved Top-End Torque it removesthe top speed limiter too!

- Better Climbing ability mustang rock crawling?

- Improved HP and Torque Output in High Altitude Areas where the air is thin

- Increased Passing Ability

- Better and Crisp throttle response didnt he say this before?

- Circuit Protection WTF!?!?!?!?!??!

- Better Mid-High RPM Revs

- Helps your vehicle to Pass SMOG and EMISSIONS Regulations

- Street Legal Everywhere

- Pays for itself by saving gas

- Cleaner Spark Plugs ( Less repairs and tune-ups )

- Cleaner Engine heads ( Less repairs )

- Lengthens the life of your engine belts by reducing Engine RPM's now it adds an extra gear to the tranny!

- Smoother Power in all power band levels now it sounds like mustangs are 2 stroke engines

- Causes less stress on your engine, making your engine last even longer

- Dyno Proven by my very own SOTP patented dyno!!

- Extends the life of your oil and extends the life of your oil between oil changes

SaleenGT2001 · Feb 21, 2008

that was fun!!!!

LaserSVT · Feb 21, 2008

SaleenGT2001 said:
ACR performance chip specifications

- 60+ Horsepower (65-70+ HP on trucks and SUV's)

- 60+ Ft. lbs of Torque ( 65-70+ Torque on trucks and SUV's)

- 20+ MPG better fuel Efficiency GUARANTEED!

- Faster Acceleration

- Faster Track times

- Improved 1/4 and 1/8th mile track times

- Better mid-range acceleration

- Higher Top-End power

- Increased towing power

- Smoother shifting (Automatic and manual transmissions)

- Smoother Idle

- Extends the life of your spark plugs

- Extends the time between costly engine Tune-ups

- More low end torque

- 75%+ Quicker throttle response time

- Cleaner Engine Heads

- Cleaner and faster revs

- Higher Top-Speed and Improved Top-End Torque

- Better Climbing ability

- Improved HP and Torque Output in High Altitude Areas where the air is thin

- Increased Passing Ability

- Better and Crisp throttle response

- Circuit Protection

- Better Mid-High RPM Revs

- Helps your vehicle to Pass SMOG and EMISSIONS Regulations

- Street Legal Everywhere

- Pays for itself by saving gas

- Cleaner Spark Plugs ( Less repairs and tune-ups )

- Cleaner Engine heads ( Less repairs )

- Lengthens the life of your engine belts by reducing Engine RPM's

- Smoother Power in all power band levels

- Causes less stress on your engine, making your engine last even longer

- Dyno Proven

- Extends the life of your oil and extends the life of your oil between oil changes

With a gaurentee like that I will get two incase one breaks

SaleenGT2001 · Feb 21, 2008

i just sent him a question

ihave a 1994 mustang GT with 200,000 miles. one of the heads is cracked and really dirty. will this chip help the heads on my car and give me enough power to run with an 03 cobra??

CobraRed_96_GT · Feb 21, 2008

they have it for the dodge caravan too guys! They literally just changed out the picture and kept all the same info
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...o=CRX&its=S%2BI%2BSS&itu=ISS%2BUCI%2BSI&otn=4

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