Well I'm 90% done w/ the engine build. All that remains to be purchased is the pushrods, valve springs, and retainers. So I have a very accurate account of what it costs to "keep it all Ford" vs just dumping a 5300 LS truck engine in the thing.
I'll break it down for you:
1. JY core D8 250 C.I. rebuilder engine 200.00
1. Salvage bare D0 Australian Crossflow alloy head 275.00
1. Custom made exhaust manifold 150.00
1 Custom made F.I. intake manifold 440.00
6 3/32" replacement cylinder sleeves 180.00
1 Hardbloc "shortfill" kit 80.00
Machine work to freshen engine 550.00
1 Set (8)ARP waveloc SBF 5/16 rod bolts 70.00
1 Custom length set ARP head studs 100.00
1 Set ARP main studs 80.00
1 Custom made solid billet roller cam from Australia 750.00
6 sets Comp Extreme roller lifters w/ removable link bar 390.00
1 set Racetec Custom build 2618 alloy piston w/ pins, locks, and rings 890.00
1 Custom built Cometic tool steel core MLS head gasket 150.00
6 Scorpion BBC 1.880" SS exhaust valves ( used as intakes) 84.00
8 Compcams SBC 1.5" SS exhaust valves (cheaper to buy as set of 8) 74.00
1 set (16)Compcams BBF 1.73 roller rocker (only needed 12) 169.97
1 set (16) Crane pedestal conversion kit for BBF/Cleveland 139.97
1 70mm Summit brand throttle body 139.97
6 60 lb EV1 style fuel injectors 224.00
1 Standard volume Melling oil pump 70.00
1 Stock replacement timing chain (all I can get) 50.00
1 labor charge to balance rotating assy 250.00
1 Pioneer SFI rated zero balance SBF harmonic balancer 160.00
1 Auto Specialties 25% underdrive crank pulley 50.00
1 Set Clevite rod/main beraings -010 80.00
1 misc charge for doo dads 100.00
The shocking bottom line 5896.91
Six grand..........(To tell the truth, I just shocked myself). That doesn't include the accessories , or the 4 speed auto trans that the JY engine would've had on it (which I've also already bought, but didn't add to the above total)
Ohh well,....Say "La vee"
Now alot of you are gonna start throwing crate engines that I coulda had for the amount spent on my lowly inline six banger and just for the record,....I get it.
It was about being different (as it always is for me). When originally planning the build, I had set aside 3000.00 as the budget for the entire drivetrain, as that was what I coulda bought an 80k 5300 w/ a 4L60e attached. (Guess I blew that dude clear outta the water)
I didn't want a windsor anything in this car so even if I had the entire lump sum at that time, I seriously doubt I woulda clicked the "buy it now" button. Then again who knows? I do know that the six cylinder I've invested in should make 300/350RWHP on 10-12 lbs of boost. I consider this to be the reliable DD tune. At the same time, that boost should yield a little over 500 ft lbs of RWTQ due to the 4" stroke that the engine has.
Using what other combos are making, Full kill boost for the engine will be in the 16-18 PSI range and should be somewhere around 500RWHP/600 RWTQ, but that'll be YTBD. The difference between the six, and a stock block 5 OH I coulda bought stops here,....My 6 will live at those numbers.
Now the comparable combos out there aren't using a roller cam, or my head, aren't port injected, and he's using a smaller turbo,....so maybe I'm conservative in my figures,....no matter.
Below is a dyno example, look where the torque comes in at.
( sorry, the link strings the info like this, I didn't)
Dyno Run
Dyno #1A
Date
April 2007
Location
Arizona
Owner
Does10
Vehicle
63 Falcon
Weight
D-2835 lbs
Cubic Inch
250ci
Camshaft
274-110 H
Max RWHP
423 @ 4500
Head Type
Aluminum
Rocker Ratio
1.65 F/R adj.
Max RWTQ
502 @ 2650
Valve Size
1.80/1.55
Ignition
DSII/MSD
Best 60"
Unknown
C/Ratio
8.1:1
Header/Exh
6-1 Turbo 3"
Best ET
10.86
Manifold
4V CI Alloy
Transmission
C4 Auto
Best MPH
124.47
Carb/CFM
Holley 450
Rear Gears
3.50/9"
Mileage
Unknown
Boost
Turbo 16 lbs
Rear Tires
Drag Radials
Driveability
Good
Comments
Fuel is a mix of race octane and E85. With the new aluminum head, alloy intake manifold, and the Holley 4V carb, the Falcon now runs consistently in the low 11's, with a best time of 10.95 @ 125 mph. The Falcon has made appearances in CarCraft, Hot Rod, Mustangs and Fords, Modified Mustangs and Fords, with the latest being in the August issue of Fun Ford Weekend. More info....
Like I'll be able to drive the car on street tires that'll ever realize 500 ftlbs of RWTQ.
I'll break it down for you:
1. JY core D8 250 C.I. rebuilder engine 200.00
1. Salvage bare D0 Australian Crossflow alloy head 275.00
1. Custom made exhaust manifold 150.00
1 Custom made F.I. intake manifold 440.00
6 3/32" replacement cylinder sleeves 180.00
1 Hardbloc "shortfill" kit 80.00
Machine work to freshen engine 550.00
1 Set (8)ARP waveloc SBF 5/16 rod bolts 70.00
1 Custom length set ARP head studs 100.00
1 Set ARP main studs 80.00
1 Custom made solid billet roller cam from Australia 750.00
6 sets Comp Extreme roller lifters w/ removable link bar 390.00
1 set Racetec Custom build 2618 alloy piston w/ pins, locks, and rings 890.00
1 Custom built Cometic tool steel core MLS head gasket 150.00
6 Scorpion BBC 1.880" SS exhaust valves ( used as intakes) 84.00
8 Compcams SBC 1.5" SS exhaust valves (cheaper to buy as set of 8) 74.00
1 set (16)Compcams BBF 1.73 roller rocker (only needed 12) 169.97
1 set (16) Crane pedestal conversion kit for BBF/Cleveland 139.97
1 70mm Summit brand throttle body 139.97
6 60 lb EV1 style fuel injectors 224.00
1 Standard volume Melling oil pump 70.00
1 Stock replacement timing chain (all I can get) 50.00
1 labor charge to balance rotating assy 250.00
1 Pioneer SFI rated zero balance SBF harmonic balancer 160.00
1 Auto Specialties 25% underdrive crank pulley 50.00
1 Set Clevite rod/main beraings -010 80.00
1 misc charge for doo dads 100.00
The shocking bottom line 5896.91
Six grand..........(To tell the truth, I just shocked myself). That doesn't include the accessories , or the 4 speed auto trans that the JY engine would've had on it (which I've also already bought, but didn't add to the above total)
Ohh well,....Say "La vee"
Now alot of you are gonna start throwing crate engines that I coulda had for the amount spent on my lowly inline six banger and just for the record,....I get it.
It was about being different (as it always is for me). When originally planning the build, I had set aside 3000.00 as the budget for the entire drivetrain, as that was what I coulda bought an 80k 5300 w/ a 4L60e attached. (Guess I blew that dude clear outta the water)
I didn't want a windsor anything in this car so even if I had the entire lump sum at that time, I seriously doubt I woulda clicked the "buy it now" button. Then again who knows? I do know that the six cylinder I've invested in should make 300/350RWHP on 10-12 lbs of boost. I consider this to be the reliable DD tune. At the same time, that boost should yield a little over 500 ft lbs of RWTQ due to the 4" stroke that the engine has.
Using what other combos are making, Full kill boost for the engine will be in the 16-18 PSI range and should be somewhere around 500RWHP/600 RWTQ, but that'll be YTBD. The difference between the six, and a stock block 5 OH I coulda bought stops here,....My 6 will live at those numbers.
Now the comparable combos out there aren't using a roller cam, or my head, aren't port injected, and he's using a smaller turbo,....so maybe I'm conservative in my figures,....no matter.
Below is a dyno example, look where the torque comes in at.
( sorry, the link strings the info like this, I didn't)
Dyno Run
Dyno #1A
Date
April 2007
Location
Arizona
Owner
Does10
Vehicle
63 Falcon
Weight
D-2835 lbs
Cubic Inch
250ci
Camshaft
274-110 H
Max RWHP
423 @ 4500
Head Type
Aluminum
Rocker Ratio
1.65 F/R adj.
Max RWTQ
502 @ 2650
Valve Size
1.80/1.55
Ignition
DSII/MSD
Best 60"
Unknown
C/Ratio
8.1:1
Header/Exh
6-1 Turbo 3"
Best ET
10.86
Manifold
4V CI Alloy
Transmission
C4 Auto
Best MPH
124.47
Carb/CFM
Holley 450
Rear Gears
3.50/9"
Mileage
Unknown
Boost
Turbo 16 lbs
Rear Tires
Drag Radials
Driveability
Good
Comments
Fuel is a mix of race octane and E85. With the new aluminum head, alloy intake manifold, and the Holley 4V carb, the Falcon now runs consistently in the low 11's, with a best time of 10.95 @ 125 mph. The Falcon has made appearances in CarCraft, Hot Rod, Mustangs and Fords, Modified Mustangs and Fords, with the latest being in the August issue of Fun Ford Weekend. More info....
Like I'll be able to drive the car on street tires that'll ever realize 500 ftlbs of RWTQ.
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