GREENBIOCH
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GREENBIOCH said:Should I tell you were to send the check too?
faststang_728 said:Power isn't what makes a Mustang, its the price tag. I think you got Mustangs confuzed with Vettes.
Monkie said:Yea man, as soon as you take a video of your V6 doing a 2nd gear stand still with 275 BFG drag radials with the road not wet and it has to be on a paved road. Hell, if you can spin one 275 BFG DR I'll send you the check.
GREENBIOCH said:Originally Posted by Monkie
I was showing you that I spin both tires...not one.
Oh also that was 2nd gear stand still. I'd pay you $500 if you could get your V6 to do a 2nd gear stand still in the summer time on a paved road with no water on the ground. You clutch would be
Should I tell you were to send the check too?
Mean03V6 said:Ok...Look...I know that there's not supposed to be any personal attacks on this board....but you're an idiot. So you know, the V6 puts on the better smoke show. You can power brake a V6 all day. Try that in a V8 and your brakes are gonna melt and you are going to have some serious work ahead of you when it comes to fixing them.
Pro-Hawk said:Well its a new day and I haven't had any Dr Pepper so I'm not as bad of a jerk as last night. Sorry about all my crap.
Anyways enough name calling All I would like to know is whats with burn outs anyways and exspecaliy in second gear? Other than heating your tires up before a run I really can't see the point in it. Some guy spinning there tires in a parking lot or on the street proves nothing to me. I got a 10 foot set of marks in front of my house chasing down some Jerk in second gear. Now does this mean I run a 12's or less? Heck no at the time my car rans 15's That is in a stock four banger doing the 10 ft burn out with both tires also The only cool thing to me after I cooled down was the fact it was done on a slight curved road and I never lost control of it. Koni 3/way adjustables with quad shock rear end is the only way to go and its all stock
Pro-Hawk said:Well its a new day and I haven't had any Dr Pepper so I'm not as bad of a jerk as last night. Sorry about all my crap.
Anyways enough name calling All I would like to know is whats with burn outs anyways and exspecaliy in second gear? Other than heating your tires up before a run I really can't see the point in it. Some guy spinning there tires in a parking lot or on the street proves nothing to me. I got a 10 foot set of marks in front of my house chasing down some Jerk in second gear. Now does this mean I run a 12's or less? Heck no at the time my car rans 15's That is in a stock four banger doing the 10 ft burn out with both tires also The only cool thing to me after I cooled down was the fact it was done on a slight curved road and I never lost control of it. Koni 3/way adjustables with quad shock rear end is the only way to go and its all stock
DUDE21 said:It's gonna have to be a V8, becuase if you think about it , if the V6 was better than the V8, the SVT cobras would be V6's. I'll have to go with the guys over at SVT on this one.
Pro-Hawk said:Umm I don't really have the time to go into this so I will try and keep it short. The SVOs as we all know are all 2.3Ts and was Ford racing department (kinda). We also kow Ford has a way with ending its racing department each time they get new mangament ( like Leiacoca how ever you spell it). So they caned the SVO department and years later started up a new racing department this time called SVT. Well if Ford hadn't have killed its SVO racing department it would still today becalled SVO. As we all know Ford droped out of racing blah blah got back in and now its SVT. My point I'm getting at is the brain child that even launched the idea of SVT was FIRST using four banger cars There is a little more history involved also. The 1987 SVO was canned because of guess who...No not because of some Jerk manager. It was the V8 crowd that called no joy from a soon to be released 280-300 plus hp four banger. This was to be the best SVO ever since it would imploy the twin cam system which we all know producess 289hp with just 10psi of boost. (we know from guys who has adapted a Volvo 16v head to a 2.3T) That is 100hp more than my 85' SVO at 15psi of boost. In fact SVO had to put down less hp on its 85.5 SVO because people were not pleased with buying a V8 that had less power than the turbo four that was offered.
GetImpact said:You make good points.
IMO, the appeal of the V8 is about musclecar herritage, greater starting displacement (for more overall potential) and the RUMBLE of it all.
Small displacement motors are somewhat buzzy up top no matter how you tune the exhaust, and that doesn't sound very masculine. The throaty roar of a V8 Mustang bearing down reminds you of a dominant predator in the animal kindom... like a Lion lettin' you know where he stands. That's one reason people WANT ONE.
I hear I4 and V6 trying to pipe up their exhausts only to sound more like Bees and a Flatulent Old Ladies. Hell, I paid relatively big bucks to get my old SVT Focus to NOT buzz and fart up top. Took a Borla system to get a bit of low tones from that motor, but it had to go quiet after 4K RPM or it would have started sounding like rice. At that RPM, the Mustang V8 starts sounding really badass... ADMIT IT!
Also, getting much torque out of a small motor requires some hella-strong internals (generally) and so... HELL NO it isn't cheaper to do it. You've got to start with forged guts immediately or forget about it. You can get 400 RWHP (and torque to match) pretty reliably out of only crap cast rods & pistons with the V8.
Why do you think the really strong small displacement motors cost so much to buy new?
Your V6 is made cheap just like a 2V V8, so it won't take a greater leap in percentage of power output than a V8 would. No, you just start with less potential overall, and so your cap on reasonably achievable power is LOWER in the end.
GetImpact said:You make good points.
IMO, the appeal of the V8 is about musclecar herritage, greater starting displacement (for more overall potential) and the RUMBLE of it all.
I hear I4 and V6 trying to pipe up their exhausts only to sound more like Bees and a Flatulent Old Ladies. Hell, I paid relatively big bucks to get my old SVT Focus to NOT buzz and fart up top. Took a Borla system to get a bit of low tones from that motor, but it had to go quiet after 4K RPM or it would have started sounding like rice. At that RPM, the Mustang V8 starts sounding really badass... ADMIT IT!
Also, getting much torque out of a small motor requires some hella-strong internals (generally) and so... HELL NO it isn't cheaper to do it. You've got to start with forged guts immediately or forget about it. You can get 400 RWHP (and torque to match) pretty reliably out of only crap cast rods & pistons with the V8.
Why do you think the really strong small displacement motors cost so much to buy new?
Mean03V6 said:People like Monkie aren't worth your time man...besides, his check would bounce..he's got all his money tied up in trying to compensate for his case of small man syndrome by owning a DECENT car....wonder if I should break the news to him that you don't have to have 300 + HP to do a smoke show..
Pro-Hawk said:Well its a new day and I haven't had any Dr Pepper so I'm not as bad of a jerk as last night. Sorry about all my crap.
Anyways enough name calling All I would like to know is whats with burn outs anyways and exspecaliy in second gear? Other than heating your tires up before a run I really can't see the point in it. Some guy spinning there tires in a parking lot or on the street proves nothing to me. I got a 10 foot set of marks in front of my house chasing down some Jerk in second gear. Now does this mean I run a 12's or less? Heck no at the time my car rans 15's That is in a stock four banger doing the 10 ft burn out with both tires also The only cool thing to me after I cooled down was the fact it was done on a slight curved road and I never lost control of it. Koni 3/way adjustables with quad shock rear end is the only way to go and its all stock
Monkie said:WHEN YOU CAN DO A 2ND GEAR STAND STILL WITH 275 BFG DRAG RADIAL I WILL SEND YOU $500