So, what happen with the debate between a pi-swapped bolt on GT vs an
s197???
i'm willing to first handedly test that hypothesis any day of the week. Through an auto no less
Im pullin for the PI swapped SN95!!!
i'm cheating w/ stage 1 cams, springs, full bolt on's and possibley LT's now. But im not too cocky - since a modded 05+ with a tune could lay down a good spanking while my car's almost at it's brim as far as NA mods go
the mach's are underrated from the factory in my opinion. bone stock my dad put down 270rwhp in 100 degree heat. given an estimated 15% loss thats around 320 flywheel hp at the crank. his car is bone stock and like i said this was in atleast 100degree heat.
Your not cheating at all imo...If anything, its an unfair race being that a stock 96-97 is rated at 215 hp @ the crank, & an 05+ is rated @ 300hp @ the crank. How is that fair?? & we all know about the NPI's shortcomings from the factory like the 215hp really being more like 195hp....Your cams & bolt ons are fair game IMO being that even with a PI swap, you are still down by 35 hp if you go stock for stock ratings.... n/a vs. n/a is all fair game imo.....
So your thinking about longtubes now???
Your new combo sounds pretty nasty & efficient. If your cams are smog legal u shouldnt have any problems passing smog with LT's as long as you run high flow cats... i am anxious to see the outcome of your car. When u expecting to have it done?that 215 is only like 195 when you talk about rwhp. Therefore it's not really a lie since 260hp stangs puts down 225-230. Yes i'm thinking about LT's if i can make it pass smog, but i'll have to do it with cams which is damn hard. I think with LT's tho i'll hit some pretty decent numbers being these heads are actually pretty sweet.
Even w/out LT's i dont think i'll be too far off from that 260-270 area which is where auto 05+'s see - and my car is rated 3077lbs dry, so thats helps too.
Even with less power i see a cammed/bolt on PI'd sn95 trumping a 05+ in most cases, cuz a 300rwp 96 stang is pretty damn fast while a 300rwhp 08 GT feels like dodge charger Maybe it's just me, but peak number arn't everything - a built car sees a nice looking power curve over most any relatively stock car.
Your new combo sounds pretty nasty & efficient. If your cams are smog legal u shouldnt have any problems passing smog with LT's as long as you run high flow cats... i am anxious to see the outcome of your car. When u expecting to have it done?
So what do the 05+ stangs ACTUALLY weigh, because I keep hearing different answers? By looking at them, they look alot bulkier & heavier than my Mach 1, & ALOT heavier than your 96...
Im pullin for the PI swapped SN95!!!
Im ready to race an 05+ asap...Ive actually been waiting for that race for a while but cant ever get an 05+ driver to bite since most of the S197 drivers out here are 45+ years of age.... I am fully confident that my Mach will not lose against one!!!!
Sounds like the 05+ Drivers around you actually have some brains and don't want to street race...
Well done to them...
full pi swap and you should be able to beat him....especially if he only beat you by one car now.