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    2007, the Mustang will have Competition, Camaro is Alive AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    It's cool...I personally did like the looks of the '93-'97 and '98-'02 Camaros (Firebirds and T/As too)...or else I wouldn't have bought two. I almost agree on the '67-'69s being the best looking...IMO, it's a tie between them and the 4th gens. I really never liked the 2nd or 3rd gens at all...
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    Mach 1 Stock Mach 1 Vs stock LS1

    Don't confuse the LS6 with the C6. '01 Z06 was rated at 385/385. '02-'04 Z06 was rated at 405/400. The LS6 can also be found in the CTS-V, rated at 400/395. The C6 has the LS2, rated at 400/400. The C6 Z06 will not be released until '06 or '07 (I've heard both). The rumor is, the next Z06...
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    2007, the Mustang will have Competition, Camaro is Alive AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    The "Chevrolet SS" is a fairly new concept car...I haven't heard about the Camaro and SS concept being tied together except when it first came out. That was talk from a bunch of Camaro owners too...we kinda automatically assume SS = Camaro SS. The SS is a decent looking car and the concept was...
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    2007, the Mustang will have Competition, Camaro is Alive AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    From the info. they've gathered...those pics are very close to what it should look like (meaning retro 1st gen, very similar to the PHR images). Nobody is going to say, "it will look exactly like this " because nobody from GM will talk (publicly) about the Camaro name right now...and it's...
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    2007, the Mustang will have Competition, Camaro is Alive AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    You are correct, Lutz is not a retro guy. I dunno about the odds...all I can say is there are a few people over on cz28.com that are definitely "in-the-know" with GM and these recent concept pics/images are what they are saying the 5th gen should look like. Maybe not exact but close. These...
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    Mach 1 Stock Mach 1 Vs stock LS1

    Glad we got this settled. :nice: 54, If me and my car ever happen to be in southern Cali...I'd be more than happy to run your buddy's Mach (or you) out by the broccoli fields. Only in good fun though. :)
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    2007, the Mustang will have Competition, Camaro is Alive AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Pontiac has the GTO now. I'm 99.9% sure that GM cannot officially talk about the Camaro name yet (when or where a 5th gen. will be built). CAW had the rights to produce the F-bodies thru 2005 I believe. IOW, neither could be built anywhere else (except Canada) until after 2005. I positive...
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    2007, the Mustang will have Competition, Camaro is Alive AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    One good thing about the 5th gen Camaro will be that it isn't the only car (there should be a few) being produced at that plant (wherever it may be)...so GM doesn't have to sell 80-100k units a year for it to be "successful." **GM still made money from the F-bodies even when the Ste. Therese...
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    Mach 1 Stock Mach 1 Vs stock LS1

    tama, I've tried already: But you are right, this is going nowhere...
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    Mach 1 Stock Mach 1 Vs stock LS1

    :rolleyes: ...you are persistent but you still don't have any idea what you're talking about. Now, I'm not going to take anything away from your Mach 1 or Mustang knowledge...for arguments sake, we'll say that you know everything there is to know about all Mustangs. Problem is...this was...
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    Mach 1 Stock Mach 1 Vs stock LS1

    Nobody is heartbroken here...and nobody like friggin' "attacked" you either. As almost everyone that's posted in this thread will say...it's a driver's race. End of discussion, no average this or average that. Ths LS1 will win some, the Mach 1 will win some. Don't bother posting...
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    Mach 1 Stock Mach 1 Vs stock LS1

    Alright, I'll be honest...I really don't give a s**t what the "average" Camaro runs. I've seen stock LS1's run anywhere from low 13s to 14s...so what? I don't see too many Mach 1's so I'm not going to comment on what I've seen personally (because I know they're faster than what I've seen)...
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    Mach 1 Stock Mach 1 Vs stock LS1

    Since when was the LS1 the "top dog" for GM? GM does have an LS6 you know, slightly underrated at 405hp (still 346ci too). And that's still not even close to pushing the envelope for the gen III SB...even in N/A form. Since you're grouping every Camaro owner together...what would you like...
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    I want to beat LT1's

    mity, the '96-'97 WS.6 and SS (Firehawk too) were basically no quicker than the base T/As, Formulas and Z28s. LT1=LT1 Just like the '98-'02 WS.6, Firehawk and SS are really no faster than the T/As, Formulas and Z28s. LS1=LS1 Basically. The RamAir on the Pontiacs were always better...
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    Raced a 94 LT1 Formula Ram Air WS7

    It's on! When and where? :D I'll even make sure you win at least once so you can post the kill here (if you want to). And if you wanna run my old '96 LT1...I can set that up for ya too. He's (new owner) in west Boca, off 441...so it might be right around the corner for you. :nice:
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    Raced a 94 LT1 Formula Ram Air WS7

    Sounds like a pretty good race. If you wanna run an LS1, lemme know...I'm not too far from you. :) The WS.6 Firebird, T/A (Ram Air) didn't come out until '96.
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    LS1 vs 04GT

    I'm not knocking the 4.6 because IMO, it is a nice motor but... Neither the SOHC or DOHC 4.6 (with of course "the exception" '03+ Cobra ) makes more torque than the LS1, stock vs. stock. Since we're talking '04 GT vs. LS1...ex: average GT: 270-280rwtq...average LS1: 315-325rwtq. The...
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    LS1 vs 04GT

    That's not a very good rule of thumb, at least not in this case. Even when comparing two GM motors...going by that rule of thumb, the LS1 would be roughly 4hp behind the LT1...and we know that's not true. The LT1 and LS1 are two different motors, just like the 4.6 and LS1 are two different...
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    LS1 vs 04GT

    That is correct. That unfortunately, is not always the case...but since the LS1 itself can neva lose, the driver doesn't matter. Now, put the LS1 driver in another car, anything can happen.
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    01 gt vs Lt1

    :lol: I dunno about you but I would consider this: as "heads" I don't doubt your times and I'm sure most people here wouldn't have either, if you would've posted the whole mod list in the first place. Hell, there's a bolt-on + cam A4 LT1 (stock untouched heads) down here that runs...
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