psnous
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Well they literally threw it together. Now if they improve on what they threw together and actually blueprinted something out, they could have something really impressive.
03 cobra vs z06
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You know what I found interesting is that they use two PC's to control the Motor right down the middle as if it was 2 inline five cylinders...well have to see what FORD decides. I feel it should be at least 500 RWHP if it is going to be a V10. If this is to be a supercar it should be Equivalant to the ZL1 Chevy camaro that makes 600RWHP on a 427 LS1 V8... just my .02$
That Cobra sounds stock & it's a convertible, a good .5 slower ¼ mile. 
This last Saturday I met up with a long time Corvette owner in Granite Bay, he had a 03 Z06 with CAI, wider tires in the back, and complete custom exhaust. He has had the car for 6 months, and knows how to drive them. We ran twice to 120MPH, and I had him by two cars both times! We did one from a 20MPH role to 120, and I had him again by 15 feet. Just the Facts!
Later I hooked up with another chap in a 01 Viper GTS. We did a role from 20mph and by 120 I had him by 13feet.
By the way I did all this with some pretty heavy detonation occurring the entire time.
This last Saturday I met up with a long time Corvette owner in Granite Bay, he had a 03 Z06 with CAI, wider tires in the back, and complete custom exhaust. He has had the car for 6 months, and knows how to drive them. We ran twice to 120MPH, and I had him by two cars both times! We did one from a 20MPH role to 120, and I had him again by 15 feet. Just the Facts!
Later I hooked up with another chap in a 01 Viper GTS. We did a role from 20mph and by 120 I had him by 13feet.
By the way I did all this with some pretty heavy detonation occurring the entire time.
gemex said:That Cobra was a stock convertible, a good .5 slower ¼ mile.
This last Saturday I met up with a long time Corvette owner in Granite Bay, he had a 03 Z06 with CAI, wider tires in the back, and complete custom exhaust. He has had the car for 6 months, and knows how to drive them. We ran twice to 120MPH, and I had him by two cars both times! We did one from a 20MPH role to 120, and I had him again by 15 feet. Just the Facts!
Later I hooked up with another chap in a 01 Viper GTS. We did a role from 20mph and by 120 I had him by 13feet.
By the way I did all this with some pretty heavy detonation occurring the entire time.
Very nice car... your car sounds like it is insanely fast... very nice kills
98 yeller SVT said:Kind of off-topic, but how much RWHP would it take for a stock-geared 96-98 Cobra to edge out a stock Z06? I'm thinkin' 370 rwhp and some DR's should do it.
I'm have my heart set on an 8# water-injected Kenne Bell and about 370-390 rwhp is what I'm looking at.
Comments?............
That sounds like a great setup but that is what Z06's make at the wheels and they are lighter than mustangs.
I would say you would need about 425 RWHP or close and or 370-390 with some serious weight loss.
I have seen bone stock Cobra's that dyno 375 and still lose to a stock Z06 just to give you an Idea. Either way good luck on your project and you can always add some juice or more boost.
Ator said:
Not exactly a great video for the '03 Cobra vs. Z06 debate,
as the '03 Cobra was NOT STOCK...
(It had a chip/pulley/etc & ~ 450 rwhp/500rwtq)
But neither was the Z06 either...
(Heads/cam/etc if I remember correctly & ~ 700 fwhp/unknown tq)
It takes more than just Heads and a cam to pull another 320+h.p. out of a stock Z06. The Lingenfelter Twin Turbo has all of that plus it’s pumped out to 427 with 2 turbos and its only looking at 725h.p. and it’s the fastest in the land.
Was that Cobra yours? I’ve got the smaller pulley and it makes the blower whistle louder than in the video. If it is yours I suggest you only race Z06’s with your top up and lose some weight.
Look here http://www.lingenfelter.com/pac725ttls1y.asp for all the necessary mods to get a Z06 to 700+hp.
The Lingenfelter Twin Turbo has all of that plus it’s pumped out to 427 with 2 turbos and its only looking at 725h.p. and it’s the fastest in the land. Was that Cobra yours? I’ve got the smaller pulley and it makes the blower whistle louder than in the video. If it is yours I suggest you only race Z06’s with your top up and lose some weight.
Look here http://www.lingenfelter.com/pac725ttls1y.asp for all the necessary mods to get a Z06 to 700+hp.
gemex said:It takes more than just Heads and a cam to pull another 320+h.p. out of a stock Z06.
Was that Cobra yours? I’ve got the smaller pulley and it makes the blower whistle louder than in the video. If it is yours I suggest you only race Z06’s with your top up and lose some weight.
Look here http://www.lingenfelter.com/pac725ttls1y.asp for all the necessary mods to get a Z06 to 700+hp.
No, the Cobra wasn't mine, but I know the girl who owns it.
If I remember correctly (I may not - it was a long time ago
),that Z06 was ~ 600 rwhp & the race was a "set-up" of sorts where she wasn't
told all the mods it had.
She had a bunch of stuff in the trunk, top down & obviously a passenger.
Not good conditions for a high-speed highway race IMHO...
I'll see if I can dig-up the exact specifics on both cars, as I haven't spoken with her in a LONG time...
Ok, I was wrong about the rwhp numbers (BIG TIME!) - that's what i get for relying on my failing memory...
Here are some quotes from the Z06 owner:
Guess you just have to attribute her loss to:
poor aerodynamics (Top UP anyone???)
too much weight (4000+ lbs with her & hubby in it!)
Here are some quotes from the Z06 owner:
Originally posted by 405Z
Ok, yoiu could probably do everything I have done to my car for around $10K or so if you did it all at once. I did it in stages so there was a lot of duplicate labor. The heads were about $3K exchange and then with the labor, fluids and everything they were over $4k. I can't remeber the exact number but it was approaching $5K. I could have easily saved $2k in labor of I had done everyting at one time. I also could have gone with a cheaper shop, but I like MTI and they gave me a 2 year 24,000 mile warranty. I figure spend the $ up front for good work and save a lot of hassle later. I also have some stuff that is not directly making me faster, but instead more reliable. I have a road race radiator and oil cooler that cost over $1200 plus install. After the 6 or so runs we made, my water temp was still 176 and I have a 178 degree thermostat.
I hear al kinds of arguments form "well it better be faster for what he paid" to the other end of the spectrum when C5's get beat by lesser cars like "well it's still only a mustang". The cobra is the best bang for the buck car out here right now IMHO. My car is not a drag car, it's more of a road race car. Ask sly about the handling. You (read me) will run out of balls long befor the Z06 runs out of grip on 120 Mph back roads. Hey I have beat $240K (550M, when my car had headers and an intake only) Ferrraris too, but I don't dog them for spending so much on a slower car. You are paying fpr different things. ever hit the big Brembos on a Ferrari at 150 MPH?? Guarantee there will be no fade. Is my car faster than a 360 Modena? Hell yes! If I had the $ would a buy one? Hell yes! It's not all about 1/4 mile or how much you spend. What % of the time do you spend racing anyway? Racerat could have bought a coupe and been faster, but I suspect that she likes to feel the wind in her hair and put more value on that then a couple tenths in the 1/4.
It was nice meeing everyone and you are all great people. I hope we can do it again soon. When sly asked me to come out sat, I was pretty confident that I would loose to racerat, but I still ran her b/c I like to run and I don't mind getting beat by cobra driven by a woman or anyting else. Any other snakes that want to run, just let me know
Dale.
Originally posted by 405Z
Well like I always say, you get what you pay for...... I have yet to see another Z06 that runs like mine either. FYI MTI wants about $9K for the pilshed magnusson roots blower installed....and if that's the route I wanted to go, I would pay it. Th ATI is about $6 or $7K I believe plus install of let's say $1K to be really conservatice, so you are telling me that they will do heads plus forged internals for $4K??? Hmm the crank I want is over $2500 alone. My heads have over 40 hrs of hand porting on them. At $50/hr (for argument's sake) =$2K. How does that Fram commercial go? "Pay a little now, or a lot later..."
Guess you just have to attribute her loss to:
poor aerodynamics (Top UP anyone???)
too much weight (4000+ lbs with her & hubby in it!)
