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Electrical 1986 GT - Charcoal Canister

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Boricua86

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Hello Everyone,

I just put the motor back in my 86. It is a factory 5.0 bottom, gt40p heads, gt40 intake, and factory t5. The computer is giving me the 85 code, and I know there is no canister, the last owner was trying to built a track car, he eliminated a lot of stuff.... im going behind fixing all the little things, my questions are; is it worth reinstalling the canister? would I need to reprogram the computer or anything like that?

thanks in advance,
 

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You need the canister, keeps gas vapors in check, do you still have the vent line from the tank to the engine compartment?
 

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Code 85 really doesn't affect the way the car rides. You either have a canister, or you just vent the tank safely. Car should run the same either way
 

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Code 85 CANP solenoid - The Carbon Canister solenoid is inoperative or missing.

Revised 11 –Jan_2015 to add warning about vacuum leaks due to deteriorated hose or missing caps on vacuum lines when the solenoid is removed.

Check vacuum lines for leaks and cracks. Check electrical wiring for loose connections, damaged wiring and insulation. Check solenoid valve operation by grounding the gray/yellow wire to the solenoid and blowing through it.

The computer provides the ground for the solenoid. The red wire to the solenoid is always energized any time the ignition switch is in the run position.

If you disconnected the carbon canister and failed to properly cap the vacuum line coming from under the upper intake manifold, you will have problems. You will also have problems if the remaining hose coming from under the upper intake manifold or caps for the vacuum line are sucking air.

Charcoal canister plumbing - one 3/8" tube from the bottom of the upper manifold to the rubber hose. Rubber hose connects to one side of the canister solenoid valve. Other side of the solenoid valve connects to one side of the canister. The other side of the canister connects to a rubber hose that connects to a line that goes all the way back to the gas tank. There is an electrical connector coming from the passenger side injector harness near #1 injector that plugs into the canister solenoid valve. It's purpose is to vent the gas tank. The solenoid valve opens at cruse to provide some extra fuel. The canister is normally mounted on the passenger side frame rail near the smog pump pulley.

Connecting the gas tank vent line directly to the intake manifold will result in fuel vapor being constantly sucked into the intake manifold. There is unmetered fuel that the computer cannot adjust for. The result is poor idle and poor fuel economy.



It does not weigh but a pound or so and helps richen up the cruse mixture. It draws no HP & keeps the car from smelling like gasoline in a closed garage. So with all these good things and no bad ones, why not hook it up & use it?


The purge valve solenoid connector is a dangling wire that is near the ECT sensor and oil filler on the passenger side rocker cover. The actual solenoid valve is down next to the carbon canister. There is about 12"-16" of wire that runs parallel to the canister vent hose that comes off the bottom side of the upper intake manifold. That hose connects one port of the solenoid valve; the other port connects to the carbon canister.


The purge valve solenoid should be available at your local auto parts store.

Purge valve solenoid:




The carbon canister is normally mounted on the passenger side frame rail near the smog pump pulley.

Carbon Canister:

 

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lets say I find the line just sitting there.... whats the safest way to handle those gases without reinstalling the canister and all the other stuff?
 

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If you are talking about the vent line from the gas tank I'm not aware of a 'safe' thing to do, the best thing to do is reinstall the charcoal canister and related solenoid and vacuum line to the intake, it there for several reasons. The most important one is containing the gas fumes.
 
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