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1987 Mustang GT High Idle

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I have had some problems recently and noticed that every once in a while my car will idle at around 2000 rpms then it will drop back down to about 900-1100. Also, if I am driving and I depress the clutch it will take a second to drop back down from 2000 rpms. At first I thought this could be due to a vacuum leak somewhere in the intake. Then I noticed I had a plug dangling under the car by the exhaust. I investigated and apparently this plug is for an AOD transmission only. Mine has a T-5. While I was down there I also noticed that the Oxygen sensor harness is there, however, the holes where the oxygen sensors should be have threaded plugs in them without oxygen sensors.

My question is, would not having Oxygen sensors cause these problems I am having??
 

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Using the wrong wiring harness for the computer/transmission type can damage the computer. It can burn up the signal ground trace inside the computer. The signal ground is the ground for the TPS, ECT, ACT, EGR and Map/Baro sensors.

Originally Posted by 302EFI:
The wires for the 02's and low oil did not change throughout the years, they are all in the same place.
The main ones you need to worry about are (on the harness end (ECU) that plugs into the 02 plug) is:
\- 1. Lightblue / yellow
- 2. White / Purple
- 3. Purple / Yellow
The White/Purple & Purple/Yellow gets looped for a automatic ECU
The Purple/Yellow & Lightblue/Yellow for a manual ECU

See Oxygen sensor Harnesses - Manual/Auto differences and year differences - Ford Mustang Forums : Corral.net Mustang Forum for more O2 sensor wiring harness info

Basic premise to use with transmission swaps:
Only run a auto trans O2 harness with an A9P
Only run a 5 speed trans O2 harness with an A9L
90 model year harness only works with 90 model cars without inspection/rework.

And yes, no functioning O2 sensors can affect idle quality.

Dump the codes to determine if you have computer problems. Dumping the computer diagnostic codes on 86-95 Mustangs

Revised 3-Jun-2011. Removed the link to BATAuto.com and troublecodes.net instructions on codes and how to dump them. Post the codes you get and I will post 5.0 Mustang specific code definitions and fixes.

Here's the way to dump the computer codes with only a jumper wire or paper clip and the check engine light, or test light or voltmeter. I’ve used it for years, and it works great. You watch the flashing test lamp or Check Engine Light and count the flashes.

Be sure to turn off the A/C, and put the transmission in neutral when dumping the codes. Fail to do this and you will generate a code 67 and not be able to dump the Engine Running codes.





If your car is an 86-88 stang, you'll have to use the test lamp or voltmeter method. There is no functional check engine light on the 86-88's except possibly the Cali Mass Air cars.



The STI has a gray connector shell and a white/red wire. It comes from the same bundle of wires as the self test connector.

89 through 95 cars have a working Check Engine light. Watch it instead of using a test lamp.



The STI has a gray connector shell and a white/red wire. It comes from the same bundle of wires as the self test connector.


WARNING!!! There is a single dark brown connector with a black/orange wire. It is the 12 volt power to the under the hood light. Do not jumper it to the computer test connector. If you do, you will damage the computer.

What to expect:
You should get a code 11 (two single flashes in succession). This says that the computer's internal workings are OK, and that the wiring to put the computer into diagnostic mode is good. No code 11 and you have some computer or wiring problems. ]This is crucial: the same wire that provides the ground to dump the codes provides signal ground for the TPS, EGR, ACT and Map/Baro sensors. If it fails, you will have poor performance, economy and driveablity problems


Some codes have different answers if the engine is running from the answers that it has when the engine isn't running. It helps a lot to know if you had the engine running when you ran the test.

Dumping the Engine Running codes: The procedure is the same, you start the engine with the test jumper in place. Be sure the A/C is off and the transmission is in neutral. You'll get an 11, then a 4 and the engine will speed up to do the EGR test. After the engine speed decreases back to idle, it will dump the engine running codes.

Trouble codes are either 2 digit or 3 digit, there are no cars that use both 2 digit codes and 3 digit codes.

Alternate methods:
For those who are intimidated by all the wires & connections, see Actron® for what a typical hand scanner looks like. Normal retail price is about $30 or so at AutoZone or Wal-Mart.

Or for a nicer scanner see Equus - Digital Ford Code Reader (3145) – It has a 3 digit LCD display so that you don’t have to count flashes or beeps.. Cost is $30.
Or for a nicer scanner see http://www.midwayautosupply.com/p-7208-equus-digital-ford-code-reader-3145.aspx– It has a 3 digit LCD display so that you don’t have to count flashes or beeps.. Cost is $30.
 

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h4ckb0x7 said:
I had a plug dangling under the car by the exhaust. I investigated and apparently this plug is for an AOD transmission only. Mine has a T-5.
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Which plug was it? Because the AOD has two plugs, the t-5 has three. But the way the wiring works, the t-5 shares the same two plugs as the AOD. So you really need to identify what is hanging as there isn't a "AOD only" plug under there.





While I was down there I also noticed that the Oxygen sensor harness is there, however, the holes where the oxygen sensors should be have threaded plugs in them without oxygen sensors.

My question is, would not having Oxygen sensors cause these problems I am having??
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Yes...you need to fix this.
 
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