I think those who were saying that auto's are slower were referencing their comments to New Edge Mustang GT's (I should hope). And that is absolutely the case, the 5 speed GT's are much faster than their auto counterparts. As for the old push rod 5.0 auto's being even worse I remember those days! All my buddies who owned auto Fox Body Mustangs were so much slower than the guys who owned T5 Fox's. Torque multiplication is paramount. Nightfire- What you said about auto's being faster @ the track in high Hp applications is obviously correct, and common knowledge to most gearheads. The auto's are obviously a little easier to launch & will give you a more consistent result more often than not. But, nothing is more impressive than someone who can work the 3rd pedal in a really high Hp car.