• Mustang Forums
  • 1996 - 2004 SN95 Mustang -General/Talk-
  • SN95 V6 Mustang Tech

2003 Mustang

  • Thread starter Thread starter Shawless
  • Start date Start date Dec 24, 2022

Shawless

New Member
Dec 24, 2022
8
0
1
1275 Argaritaville Spring Branch Tx
Dec 24, 2022
#1
  • Dec 24, 2022
  • #1
Cranks but doesn't start......I drove it approximately 5 miles to the store and 15 minutes later ....it didn't start.
 

Potomus Pete

I'm still waiting for the fully nude shots
5 Year Member
Mar 7, 2019
3,308
1,223
153
Sarasota Florida
Dec 24, 2022
#2
  • Dec 24, 2022
  • #2
Probably you going to have to do the world famous Cranks But Does Not Start Checklist. Really not the most fun list you will ever see, but if you go through it step by step you might be good enough to be called something. You will certainly get to know your car a lot better. If you read up you might get to hit it with starter fluid to check for a fuel problem. Then check for a spark. Gotta be one or the other
 

Shawless

New Member
Dec 24, 2022
8
0
1
1275 Argaritaville Spring Branch Tx
Dec 26, 2022
#3
  • Dec 26, 2022
  • #3
Potomus Pete said:
Probably you going to have to do the world famous Cranks But Does Not Start Checklist. Really not the most fun list you will ever see, but if you go through it step by step you might be good enough to be called something. You will certainly get to know your car a lot better. If you read up you might get to hit it with starter fluid to check for a fuel problem. Then check for a spark. Gotta be one or the other
Click to expand...
I have spent hours on YouTube looking up all different kinds of check lists....and Guess what? I did them all including the starting fluid in the Intake......it won't start..... I'm going crazy because I can't figure it out
 

General karthief

wonder how much it would cost to ship you a pair
5 Year Member
Aug 25, 2016
27,867
10,541
203
polk county florida
Jan 1, 2023
#4
  • Jan 1, 2023
  • #4
@COramprat know anything about this model or know a member that does?
 

COramprat

...I can take it. I think.
20+ Year Stangneter
Mar 2, 2003
8,474
1,463
223
Sea of Tranquility
Jan 1, 2023
#5
  • Jan 1, 2023
  • #5
First thing that comes to mind is the Idle Air Control sensor. Will it start if you give it a little gas? The next is a fuse but I'd imagine you've been through that. Have you done any recent work to it?
 

Shawless

New Member
Dec 24, 2022
8
0
1
1275 Argaritaville Spring Branch Tx
Jan 1, 2023
#6
  • Jan 1, 2023
  • #6
It won't start at all. No recent work to it. Checked all the fuses. I went to the store and then it didn't start 15 minutes later
 

COramprat

...I can take it. I think.
20+ Year Stangneter
Mar 2, 2003
8,474
1,463
223
Sea of Tranquility
Jan 1, 2023
#7
  • Jan 1, 2023
  • #7
Is it a V6 or V8?
 

Shawless

New Member
Dec 24, 2022
8
0
1
1275 Argaritaville Spring Branch Tx
Jan 1, 2023
#8
  • Jan 1, 2023
  • #8
V6
 

manicmechanic007

5 Year Member
Sep 26, 2017
2,526
712
143
Roy, Utah
Jan 1, 2023
#9
  • Jan 1, 2023
  • #9
Is it flooded?
5 minute drive to the store
How many of those have you done and possibly not gotten it up to temp?
So floor the gas and retry it for several seconds
 

Shawless

New Member
Dec 24, 2022
8
0
1
1275 Argaritaville Spring Branch Tx
Jan 1, 2023
#10
  • Jan 1, 2023
  • #10
I drive the car everyday and for longer periods.........I'm just baffled because it didn't hesitate and it didn't give me any indication anything was wrong
 
D

Deleted member 38176

Jan 4, 2023
#11
  • Jan 4, 2023
  • #11
manicmechanic007 said:
Is it flooded?
5 minute drive to the store
How many of those have you done and possibly not gotten it up to temp?
So floor the gas and retry it for several seconds
Click to expand...

FI cars dont "flood".

Try putting fuel in the car.
 

manicmechanic007

5 Year Member
Sep 26, 2017
2,526
712
143
Roy, Utah
Jan 4, 2023
#12
  • Jan 4, 2023
  • #12
Quack!
FI cars sure do flood
 

Mustang5L5

That is…until I whipped out my Bissell
Mod Dude
Feb 18, 2001
43,215
17,899
224
Massachusetts
Jan 4, 2023
#13
  • Jan 4, 2023
  • #13
No start condition when hot, does point to an overly rich condition, in which depressing the gas pedal while cranking puts the ecu in "flood clear" mode which doesn't fire the injectors while cranking.

Shawless said:
I drive the car everyday and for longer periods.........I'm just baffled because it didn't hesitate and it didn't give me any indication anything was wrong
Click to expand...

So, does the car start if you depress the gas pedal to the floor during the times it won't restart?

If it does restart then, it points to an overly rich condition which can be caused by a failing sensor (ECT or ACT)

Other questions. Given the car is 19 years old, does the check engine light bulb work? I beleive 2003's were still using incandescent bulbs for the warning lights in the bottom of the cluster. Does the CEL come on if you turn the key to ON, but do not start the car?

Is the CEL illuminated at all? If so, are you able to hook an OBD2 scanner up and pull the codes?
 

General karthief

wonder how much it would cost to ship you a pair
5 Year Member
Aug 25, 2016
27,867
10,541
203
polk county florida
Jan 4, 2023
#14
  • Jan 4, 2023
  • #14
@Nightfire @manicmechanic007
Just for the sake of discussion, a flooded engine condition can happen with a FI engine but not like a carb'd engine, of course with a carb every time you press the go peddle fuel is squirted until the float bowl is emptied, but we all know this, so what happens when you press the go peddle on the EFI engine key off, not running? Well nothing, even when the key is turned on, there may be a quick little spritz of fuel from an injector that is activated at that moment but insignificant, you can stab that peddle all you want and nothing, now a leaking injector(s) can flood the engine, a malfunctioning TPS or other sensor can contribute to an over rich condition, combined with old, weak ignition parts and you have a flooded no start condition so it is possible to flood a EfI engine.
Pressing the go peddle to the floor, just like a carb'd engine, shuts off the injectors when cranking to clear this, I believe it even referred to as a 'clear flood procedure '.
This is based on what I have learned here and personal experience and not based on any actual mechanical certification so don't call me as an expert witness in an automotive related court case
 

manicmechanic007

5 Year Member
Sep 26, 2017
2,526
712
143
Roy, Utah
Jan 4, 2023
#15
  • Jan 4, 2023
  • #15
Okay, for the discussion then
Yes it is called flood clear mode for efi vehicles
Your carb'd vehicles when floored to clear it out from flooded
Unloads, the choke mainly, and no more gas flows than at Idle because there is no fast air passing the venturis
It won't run the carb out of gas, and the fuel pump is still pumping while cranking the engine over
The initial big squirt of fuel to wide open throttle WOT the carb and then the fuel flow stops
That's why the choke unloader adjustment and verification is so important on carburetors
Where I live you need have a choke if you are running a carb
Just helped a buddy start his built 69 Camaro yesterday at 20 degrees with no choke
Took a while, needed a bulb with fuel and the Demon started of fire a few times
Fun stuff
I get calls all thee time out of the Blue
Where their car will not start after they drove home or anywhere else
I go over there
Do a WOT start,, and I'll be dammed the thing sputters some then takes off and runs like normal
It's the first thing you do in case of a cranks will not start
If that fails, then it's hood up time and yes you can use a checklist
 

General karthief

wonder how much it would cost to ship you a pair
5 Year Member
Aug 25, 2016
27,867
10,541
203
polk county florida
Jan 4, 2023
#16
  • Jan 4, 2023
  • #16
manicmechanic007 said:
won't run the carb out of gas, and the fuel pump is still pumping while cranking the engine over
Click to expand...
I was referring to pumping the peddle engine off, key off (not cranking)
While both 'technically ' are correct, you still have to have the last word
 
P

PSKSAM2

Founding Member
Feb 13, 2002
771
8
38
NJ
Jan 6, 2023
#17
  • Jan 6, 2023
  • #17
Shawless said:
I have spent hours on YouTube looking up all different kinds of check lists....and Guess what? I did them all including the starting fluid in the Intake......it won't start..... I'm going crazy because I can't figure it out
Click to expand...

Did you confirm you have spark at the plugs?
Did you confirm you have fuel at the injectors?
 

manicmechanic007

5 Year Member
Sep 26, 2017
2,526
712
143
Roy, Utah
Jan 7, 2023
#18
  • Jan 7, 2023
  • #18
It takes the big three to start
Spark
Fuel
compression
You double check those and replace the spark plugs again. Check the fuel quality
You did not go buy fuel right before this happened right?
You did not put a bunch of water or diesel in it right? Cut rate gas station?
Everything must be checked again apparently
Then try it again
The plugs are most likely fouled at this point
 
D

Deleted member 38176

Jan 9, 2023
#19
  • Jan 9, 2023
  • #19
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

M
warmed up, hard re-starting on hot days
  • michaelleewebb
  • Mar 26, 2026
  • SN95 V6 Mustang Tech
Replies
9
Views
231
SN95 V6 Mustang Tech Mar 29, 2026
michaelleewebb
M
M
01 mustang 3.8 fuel pressure issue
  • Mhaley2006
  • May 29, 2026
  • 1996 - 2004 SN95 Mustang -General/Talk-
Replies
0
Views
78
1996 - 2004 SN95 Mustang -General/Talk- May 29, 2026
Mhaley2006
M
Engine Coolant boiling in hose?
  • Teen'93stang5.0
  • Jun 3, 2026
  • Fox 5.0 Mustang Tech
Replies
7
Views
122
Fox 5.0 Mustang Tech Jun 8, 2026
Mustang5L5
L
1997 V6 Starting issue
  • leanzik04
  • Mar 20, 2026
  • SN95 V6 Mustang Tech
Replies
3
Views
212
SN95 V6 Mustang Tech Mar 20, 2026
Noobz347
Fuel Damper, 2003 Mustang GT
  • bmmckl
  • Dec 19, 2025
  • 1996 - 2004 SN95 Mustang -General/Talk-
Replies
0
Views
167
1996 - 2004 SN95 Mustang -General/Talk- Dec 19, 2025
bmmckl
Share:
Bluesky Email Share Link
  • Mustang Forums
  • 1996 - 2004 SN95 Mustang -General/Talk-
  • SN95 V6 Mustang Tech
Menu
Log in

Register

  • Forums
  • What's new
  • Media
  • Resources
  • Contact
  • Sponsor
X

Privacy & Transparency

We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:

  • Personalized ads and content
  • Content measurement and audience insights

Do you accept cookies and these technologies?

X

Privacy & Transparency

We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:

  • Personalized ads and content
  • Content measurement and audience insights

Do you accept cookies and these technologies?