spanky442 said:i think most of our oil comes from Russia and South America.
Ron Jeremy said:I am sorry, but I was just trying to get a point across here.
What I am inferring to is that the Arabs are the ones who are causing the economic problems which this country is currently having. I am not saying that all Arabs are bad. But what I am trying to imply here is that they are the ones who are causing America to have economic problems. They are the ones who control oil production and the oil prices. They also control the global oil prices. And everything costs more when the oil rich Arab countries increase their oil prices. Americans have to pay more money for everything because the Arabs increase their oil prices. And many Americans are hurting financially because of this. I know because I personally know Americans who are having hard financial times because gasoline prices and everything else has gone up. And the wages of Americans have NOT gone up to offset the increase in oil prices. I hope that you understand this. I don't like being dependent on a bunch of Mickey Mouse Rouge Middle Eastern raghead countries who want to dictate to us what they will charge us for oil.
And to answer your last question. I am glad that I am not an Arab or an Arab American. I would be ashamed if I ever were either of the two. Arabs are all Anti-American, Anti-Christian and Anti-Jewish. I don't know one Arab or one Arab American who isn't any or all three of these things. I am not trying to be sensitive in here when talking about the Arabs or the Arab Americans, but these things which I mentioned in here are 100% true facts. Americans should be aware of these things. Americans should not be sensitive to these things. I hope that you can understand this. We were sensitive in the past and this caused 3,000 innocent American people to die on September 11th. We allowed them to kill 3,000+ of our own American countrymen because we were being sensitive to them and we didn't impose adequate security to prevent 16 Arabs from ramming 2 airliners into the twin Trade Center towers, 1 airliner into the Pentagon and another last airliner into the ground in Pennsylvania which was headed for the White House. I don't know about you, but I sure don't trust anyone who is an Arab after what happened on September 11th. I would be stupid if I ever do so. I am very angry that there are many stupid Americans in this country who don't see and who don't understand this. The only time when they will understand is when we have another September 11th occur. Maybe that's when people will wake up. But by then it's going to be too late. My heart cries out to America and to all the innocent people who lost their lives on September 11th and to their families and to all the American heroes who are serving in the Middle East and in Iraq, and in Afghanistan and in the rest of the Middle Eastern $hithole countries for freedom and peace. My heart also cries out to the American heroes who have lost their lives in the Middle East while protecting these Mickey Mouse countries and while trying to bring peace to the Middle East. Most Americans don't see and don't understand this though. Please do some research and look to see who decreases oil production and who increases oil prices. And please look to see who killed the 3,000+ innocent people on September 11th and who is currently daily killing our American heroes serving in Iraq and in the Middle East. It aint the Swedes, the Itallians or the Irish. It aint the French or the Germans or the English. It's the Arabs.
Z28x said:http://www.cis.state.mi.us/mpsc/reports/energy/02summer/oilimports.htm
What Companies use Middle East Oil? see here = http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/...ompany_level_imports/current/summary2002.html
mustang sallad said:You're generalizations are immensly insulting. My heart goes out to any muslim who happened to read this. I live in a very diverse city with a huge muslim population, and they are just as decent as people of any other religion or nationality.
awalbert88 said:Those are some interesting numbers. Am I correct in understanding that Sunoco does not in fact use middle eastern oil then? I generally only put Sunoco in my car anyway, but this is interesting to learn.
Z28x said:Ron didn't say anything about Muslims. Your generalizing just as bad. Not all Arabs are Muslims, and Not all Muslims are Arabs.
Ron Jeremy said:Hey Mustang Sallad,
And not all Muslims are terrorists, but ALL Terrorists are Muslims.
SVTdriver said:That's great that you want to drive only on weekends. But many of the places I have worked either start too early or are not near buslines. So I should have a prius since environmentalists think I should pay more for the privilege of driving? No thanks. If people wanted to public transportation it would be made available. But I have rarely seen buses filled to capacity so that people have to wait for the next bus. 99.95% have plenty of room to spare. Or light rail. I have ridden on it in Portland Oregon. Only for concerts or holidays is it ever very full. And the ferries up here in washingotn are supplemented by the state. Why the hell should my tax dollars support someone elses transportation. And they are going to build lightrail in seattle. It will go nowhere near me. Nowhere near where the bulk of my travels will be. But I pay for it everytime I buy tabs for my car.
And let's talk about the problem with food transportation affecting the environment. If the local people were able to offer better prices. Then noone would pay to have the food trucked in from farther away. But when you consider that other places are making it better financially to buy from them. Why not use them. If I could buy food from the store 10 miles away cheaper than the store one bolck down. Why should I spend more at the neighbor.
66Satellite said:The main reason people don't use public transportation is a) for the most part it sucks and b) gas is so cheap. In Europe where gas is more expensive and the public transportation is much better, public transportation is used a lot more. Over there they also have a lot of road tolls--ie people who use specific roads have to pay for thier upkeep. As a car driver you should be happy to help pay for public transportation because it means less people on the roads--less traffic. Keep in mind that people who don't have cars still pay for road upkeep with their taxes. Yes, Monorail won't be coming to your neighborhood--yet. But it's just a matter of time. Take a look at how BART works in the SF Bay area. Yes, it's expensive, but it works. Also, when it does come to your neighborhood, you'll see your property values rise quite a bit (good if you own your home).
The food thing is a bit more complicated. I know it's nice to be able to eat oranges in the winter if you live in a place that doesn't even grow them. My point is more about all the useless cr@p that is trucked around the place cause it's still cheap to do so--ie water from France. And I think you SHOULD consider spending a bit more to buy from your neighbor. I think it's pretty short sighted to buy cheap Chinese products at Wallmart. If we keep doing that there isn't going to be much of an economy left in this country.
My lousy $.01.
mustang sallad said:This is trully a sad thing to read. You're generalizations are immensly insulting. My heart goes out to any muslim who happened to read this. I live in a very diverse city with a huge muslim population, and they are just as decent as people of any other religion or nationality. To take a handful of people who committed a horrible crime against humanity and decide that every one who's blood comes from the same part of the world as them is "anti-american" and "untrustworthy" is dispicable. What do you say about the boys in white hoods down south that kill in the name of christianity and america? Do they properly represent your religion or country? You need to learn a bit more about the outside world before you make these offending statements.
Normally I tell people they can believe what they want to believe, but when someone's beliefs harm other decent people, that's crossing a line, whether you're a car-obsessed american insulting an entire nation of people, or some psycho crashing a plane into a building.
1990StangLX said:yesterday i paid 2.35 a gallon for 87 unleaded.
the biggest problem i have with this is that there is such a huge disparity between the prices around the country. the california government has screwed us over so much with their inept management of the energy needs that you just get used to it. now some brilliant congresswoman is proposing ANOTHER increase of like 6-10 cents per gallon of gas. talk about retards.
Papa Georgio said:Iraq and any other part of the world is not creating any ecenomic problems for the U.S. The U.S. is creating its own problems. We are importing oil from the arab world, they do not have to sell us anything at all but they CHOOSE to. To say that Iraq is the cause of americas problems is just like George W wants you to believe.
351CJ said:You are correct that Americans have no one to blame except themselves for "high" oil prices. Reducing oil consumption is something that most Americans just will not do. Millions of barrels of oil could be saved if people with oil heat would have their furnaces or boilers tuned up every year or two. But that's too much efffort for most Americans. Most simply let anything they own run until it dies.
SUV's are another problem. What most families need is a station wagon. But wagons aren't hip so they buy over priced trucks with station wagon bodies on them that get horrible gas mileage and raise oil prices for all of us due to their excessive consumption.
The Saudis and other members of OPEC (not all OPEC members are Arab) are just being smart business people. The US gets a large amount of crude oil and refined products like gasoline from Venezuala, which I belive is an OPEC member. They know that if they raise prices too much it will negatively effect the US (& world's economy). So they walk a tightrope in keeping prices as high as possible without having too negative an effect on the world's economy. Given the same opportunity there is not a person here in the US who would not do the exact same thing that OPEC is doing.
Finally, if you haven't noticed it, the US dollar has declined in value by a HUGE amount. A year or so ago it was 85 US $ to the EURO, It's now 123 US $$ to a EURO. Since oil is predomently priced in US $$ now one wants to be paid less. Given that the Bush adminstration wants the dollar to sink (even though they give us BS about a stong $) and the US's huge trade deficet has to ultimately lead to a weaker $. So get used to paying higher priced for your gasoline as well as anything else made with or from oil.
PS, PAPA, your statement that AMERICAN IS IGNORANT is rather offensive to me. Many Americans are ignorant, but a lot of us are not.
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