• Mustang Forums
  • 1965 - 1973 Classic Mustangs -General/Talk-
  • Classic Mustang Specific Tech

351 crank vrs 302

  • Thread starter Thread starter dave 1970
  • Start date Start date Jan 16, 2007
D

dave 1970

Member
Nov 26, 2006
49
0
6
Jan 16, 2007
#1
  • Jan 16, 2007
  • #1
can anyone tell me the advantage of putting a 351 crank and roller cam in a 302 block,engine was also bored .30 over
 
D

dave 1970

Member
Nov 26, 2006
49
0
6
Jan 16, 2007
#2
  • Jan 16, 2007
  • #2
dave 1970 said:
can anyone tell me the advantage of putting a 351 crank and roller cam in a 302 block,engine was also bored .30 over
Click to expand...
 
D

danny clemens

Member
May 4, 2005
728
0
16
Jan 16, 2007
#3
  • Jan 16, 2007
  • #3
A 351 crank won't fit in a 302.
 

joncash

just high enough to be functional
Founding Member
Dec 9, 2000
756
4
39
The USA's peen
Jan 16, 2007
#4
  • Jan 16, 2007
  • #4
that would be cool, though
 

brianj5600

Active Member
Sep 19, 2003
1,964
2
39
Middle TN
Jan 16, 2007
#5
  • Jan 16, 2007
  • #5
The early stroker used 351 cranks turned down with 2.3L rods if my memory serves me right. Now it would cost more to machine a 351 crank than a new 3.40" crank. Early in the stroker game you could buy a kit with a 3.5" stroke, but that is just a little too much for an 8.2" block.
 
D

dave 1970

Member
Nov 26, 2006
49
0
6
Jan 16, 2007
#6
  • Jan 16, 2007
  • #6
thanks for the info,this motor was built in the early 90s by a reputable ford rebuilder,it definitly has a 351 crank in it ,tore the heads off it still has the hach marks on the cylinder wall,so it has very low miles ,also has a set of rebuilt heads with harded seats for 500 bucks ,i think i better grab this,was also rebuilt with all ford parts
 
D

dave 1970

Member
Nov 26, 2006
49
0
6
Jan 16, 2007
#7
  • Jan 16, 2007
  • #7
dave 1970 said:
thanks for the info,this motor was built in the early 90s by a reputable ford rebuilder,it definitly has a 351 crank in it ,tore the heads off it still has the hach marks on the cylinder wall,so it has very low miles ,also has a set of rebuilt heads with harded seats for 500 bucks ,i think i better grab this,was also rebuilt with all ford parts
Click to expand...
 

302 coupe

Founding Member
Mar 2, 2000
1,952
3
36
Macon, Ga.
Jan 16, 2007
#8
  • Jan 16, 2007
  • #8
whats the casting number on the crank? I suspect you have very very minimal chances of having a 351 crank in a 302 block, especially with "all ford" parts.

for casting number, look on the forwardmost counterweight. 221/260/289 will have "1M". 302 are "2M". 351W is 3M, 3C, or 3M A. 351C cranks are 4M I think. If you see a 3M, proceed to measure deck height to see if its a 289/302 block or 351 block. 302's are 8.2", 351W is 9.2".
 
D

D.Hearne

New Member
Sep 29, 2000
11,730
6
0
south louisiana
Jan 16, 2007
#9
  • Jan 16, 2007
  • #9
More likely they used a 351C crank to do this. You'd have to take too much metal off a Windsor crank to do this. The Windsor mains are something like 3/4" (.750) larger than a 302. The Cleveland mains are closer in diameter to the 302. Cheaper to just use a 3.4 stroker crank now. If you want 352 cubes, just bore the 302 block .060 and use the 3.4 crank.
 
B

bnickel

Founding Member
Aug 21, 2002
5,640
3
77
lubbock, texas
Jan 16, 2007
#10
  • Jan 16, 2007
  • #10
D.Hearne said:
More likely they used a 351C crank to do this. You'd have to take too much metal off a Windsor crank to do this. The Windsor mains are something like 3/4" (.750) larger than a 302. The Cleveland mains are closer in diameter to the 302. Cheaper to just use a 3.4 stroker crank now. If you want 352 cubes, just bore the 302 block .060 and use the 3.4 crank.
Click to expand...



D beat me to it. it is possible to turn a 351c crank down to fit a 302 block and it really isn't even all that difficult really but definitely not very practical today.
 

rbohm

Founding Member
Apr 12, 2002
6,698
550
204
tucson,az
Jan 16, 2007
#11
  • Jan 16, 2007
  • #11
yep, jack roush used a modified 351c crank in a 302 block when he built the indy pace car engine for the 79 mustang.
 
D

danny clemens

Member
May 4, 2005
728
0
16
Jan 16, 2007
#12
  • Jan 16, 2007
  • #12
brianj5600 said:
The early stroker used 351 cranks turned down with 2.3L rods if my memory serves me right. Now it would cost more to machine a 351 crank than a new 3.40" crank. Early in the stroker game you could buy a kit with a 3.5" stroke, but that is just a little too much for an 8.2" block.
Click to expand...

I guess I should have said won't fit without modification. I had no idea that the C crank would work with machining. I learn something new all the time.
 
D

dave 1970

Member
Nov 26, 2006
49
0
6
Jan 16, 2007
#13
  • Jan 16, 2007
  • #13
302 coupe said:
whats the casting number on the crank? I suspect you have very very minimal chances of having a 351 crank in a 302 block, especially with "all ford" parts.

for casting number, look on the forwardmost counterweight. 221/260/289 will have "1M". 302 are "2M". 351W is 3M, 3C, or 3M A. 351C cranks are 4M I think. If you see a 3M, proceed to measure deck height to see if its a 289/302 block or 351 block. 302's are 8.2", 351W is 9.2".
Click to expand...

hello ,i pick it up sat,will check the numbers you gave me,thankyou
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

P
67 Mustang, with the 302 want to convert auto back to the original manual
  • Pdunn
  • May 3, 2026
  • Classic Mustang Specific Tech
Replies
2
Views
118
Classic Mustang Specific Tech May 7, 2026
Mcmahst
T
New Guy from Southeast Missouri
  • tcooke11
  • Jan 10, 2026
  • The Welcome Wagon
Replies
1
Views
258
The Welcome Wagon Jan 17, 2026
TomcatPC
4
1965 mustang 351 850 hp+ primary tubes 1 7/8 or larger and a 3 inch or larger collectors?
  • 427nostang
  • Jun 4, 2026
  • 1965 - 1973 Classic Mustangs -General/Talk-
Replies
7
Views
145
1965 - 1973 Classic Mustangs -General/Talk- Jul 6, 2026
gray owl
G
Fox won't crank over and fuel pump won't kick on.
  • djj62478
  • Jun 7, 2026
  • 1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk-
Replies
16
Views
303
1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk- Jun 11, 2026
General karthief
T
Oil burning on my recently buil 302
  • The blk67
  • May 15, 2026
  • Fox 5.0 Mustang Tech
Replies
3
Views
143
Fox 5.0 Mustang Tech May 15, 2026
Noobz347
Share:
Bluesky Email Share Link
  • Mustang Forums
  • 1965 - 1973 Classic Mustangs -General/Talk-
  • Classic Mustang Specific Tech
Menu
Log in

Register

  • Forums
  • What's new
  • Media
  • Resources
  • Contact
  • Sponsor
X

Privacy & Transparency

We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:

  • Personalized ads and content
  • Content measurement and audience insights

Do you accept cookies and these technologies?

X

Privacy & Transparency

We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:

  • Personalized ads and content
  • Content measurement and audience insights

Do you accept cookies and these technologies?